<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047</id><updated>2012-01-27T15:05:57.382-08:00</updated><category term='Introduction to web site'/><category term='The'/><category term='I'/><title type='text'>Musings on Markets</title><subtitle type='html'>My not so profound thoughts about valuation, corporate finance and the news of the day!</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>206</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-874766085714978968</id><published>2012-01-26T08:23:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-26T08:23:55.267-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Moneyball and Investing: Data, Information and my 2012 Update</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;I loved Moneyball, both the book, by Michael Lewis, and &lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1210166/" target="_blank"&gt;movie&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;starring Brad Pitt, because they bring together two things I love: baseball and numbers. At the risk of shortchanging the book, the central story in the book is a simple one. For most of baseball’s hundred plus years of existence, insiders (baseball managers, scouts and experts) have used stories and narratives to keep themselves above the riff raff (which is where you and I as fans belong). Thus, scouts claimed to have special skills (based on their long history of having done this before) to find potential superstars in high schools and the minor leagues, and managers justified their personnel decisions and game day choices with gut feeling and baseball instincts. Billy Beane, the general manager of the Oakland As, a storied but budget-constrained franchise, upended the game by shunting hoary tradition and &lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi1768528921/" target="_blank"&gt;putting his faith in the numbers&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think that financial markets and baseball share a great deal in common. Equity research analysts are our baseball scouts, asking us to trust their story telling skills when picking stocks. Executives at companies are our baseball managers, flaunting their industry experience and asking us to trust their gut feeling and instincts, when it comes to big decisions.  Like Billy Beane, I trust the numbers far more than either analyst stories or managerial instincts, and it is for that reason that I started gathering raw data on individual companies about two decades ago and computing industry averages for a few key inputs into investments: risk, return and growth. Initially, it was a limited exercise, where I looked at only US companies and &amp;nbsp;a handful of statistics. I put those numbers online, not anticipating many downloads, but was pleasantly surprised at how many people seemed to find the data useful (I won’t flatter myself. The fact that it was free did help…) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Each year my coverage has expanded, driven partially by external demand and mostly by easier access to raw data. Starting in 2003, I went global and a year or two later started providing data on the individual companies as well. So, here is where the long windup is leading. I have just finished the January 2012 update to my data. You can get to it by going to the updated data page on my website: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/data.html"&gt;http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/data.html&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;My sample includes all (a) publicly traded firms, (b) listed on any global exchange and (c) have data on the data sources that I use (Value Line for US companies, Capital IQ and Bloomberg for non-US companies). In January 2012, there were 41,803 companies in my overall dataset.&amp;nbsp;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;I have computed industry averages for about 35 variables, covering a wide range of inputs: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a.     Risk measures and hurdle rates&lt;/u&gt;: Betas and standard deviations, as well as costs of equity and capital, by sector. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b.     Profitability measures&lt;/u&gt;: Profit margins (net and operating), tax rates and returns on equity and capital. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c.      Growth measures/ estimates&lt;/u&gt;:  Historical growth rates in revenues and earnings, as well as forecasted growth rates (where available) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;d.     Financial leverage (debt) measures&lt;/u&gt;: Book value and market value debt to equity and debt to capital ratios. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;e.     Dividend policy measures&lt;/u&gt;: Dividend yields and payout ratios, as well as cash statistics (cash as a percent of firm value). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;f.      Equity multiples&lt;/u&gt;: Price earnings ratios (current, trailing, forward), PEG ratios, Price to Book ratios and Price to Sales ratios. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;g.     Enterprise value multiples&lt;/u&gt;: Enterprise value to EBIT, EBITDA, revenues and invested capital. &lt;br /&gt;I generally stay away from macro economic data but I do report equity risk premiums (historical and implied) over time and marginal tax rates across countries. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You are welcome to use whatever data you want  from this site, but please keep in mind the following caveats: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;1.     Data yields estimates, not facts&lt;/u&gt;: In these days of easy data access and superb tools for analysis, it is easy to be lulled into believing that you are looking at facts, when you are really looking at estimates (and very noisy ones at that). Every number that is on my site, from the historical equity risk premium to the average PE ratio for chemical companies is &amp;nbsp;an estimate (and adding more decimal points to my numbers will not make them more precise).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;2.     Data has to be measured&lt;/u&gt;: That is again stating the obvious, but implicit in this statement are two points. The first is that someone (an accountant, a data service, me) is doing the measurement and imposing his or her judgment on the measured value. The second is that there can be error in measurement. Thus, with my data, you can be assured that there are errors and mistakes in the final numbers. While I can blame some of these mistakes on the data services that I get my raw data from, many are mine. So, if you find a mistake or even something that looks like a mistake, please let me know and I promise you two things. First, I will not be defensive about it and will take a look at the issue you have raised. Second, if I do find myself in error, I will fix the error as soon as I can. (With a staff of one (me), this data service can get stretched sometimes… So, please have some patience). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;3.     Data for post-mortems versus data for predictions&lt;/u&gt;: As I see it, data can be used in two ways. The first is to generate post-mortems (about past performance) and the other is make forecasts for the future. Given my focus on corporate finance and valuation, I am more interested in the latter than the former. Thus, my data definitions are more attuned to forecasting than to after-the-fact analysis. Just to provide an example, the cost of capital that I am interested in computing for a company is the cost of capital that I can use for the next five years, not the one for the last three years.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;u&gt;4. Data anchoring&lt;/u&gt;: Whether we like it or not, our instinct when confronted with a number, and asked to decide whether it is high or low, is to compare it what we consider reasonable numbers (at least in our minds). Thus, if I came to you with a stock with a PE of 10, your determination of whether the stock is cheap or expensive will depend largely on what you think the average PE is across all stocks and what comprises a high or low PE and all too often, in the absence of updated and comprehensive data, these are guesses. &amp;nbsp;It is for this reason that analysts and investors create rules of thumb: a EV/EBITDA of less than six is cheap, a PEG ratio less than one is cheap or a stock that trades at less than book value is cheap. But who comes up with these rules of thumb? And do they work? The only way to answer these questions is to look at the data across all companies and make your own judgments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is one final point generally about data that I have to make, and it relates back to Moneyball. Much as I agree with Billy Beane on the importance of data, I think that his mistake was focusing far too much on the data. The data should be the starting point for your assessments, but not the ending point. Stories do matter, if they can be backed up by the data, or to draw implications from it. The secret to great investing is a happy marriage between plausible investment stories and numbers, with the recognition that even the best sounding stories have to be abandoned at some point, if the numbers don’t back them up. So, explore the data and make it your own!!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-874766085714978968?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/874766085714978968/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=874766085714978968' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/874766085714978968'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/874766085714978968'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2012/01/moneyball-and-investing-data.html' title='Moneyball and Investing: Data, Information and my 2012 Update'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-2243162625105457814</id><published>2012-01-25T10:04:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-25T10:06:02.987-08:00</updated><title type='text'>My small challenge to the "university" business model</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;I am not a great fan of the university business model as a delivery mechanism for learning. The model can be&lt;a href="http://www.eng.unibo.it/PortaleEn/University/Our+History/default.htm" target="_blank"&gt; traced back to the middle ages&lt;/a&gt; and is built around physical location and arbitrary requirements for graduation (that have less to do with learning and more to do with maximizing university revenues and faculty comfort). I know! I know! I am a beneficiary of the system and I gain from the low teaching loads and a tenure system that is indefensible. With four children, I am also a consumer of the same system and I am flabbergasted at how little accountability is built into it. How many classes have you taken (or your children taken) where you should have received your money back because of the quality of the learning experience? How often have you been able to get your money back?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For hundreds of years, we (as consumers) have had no choice. Universities have operated with little competition and substantial collusion. There is no other way that you can explain how little variation there is in tuition fees across US universities and the rise in these fees over time. Outside the US, the fees may be subsidized by governments, but the quality of the learning experience is often worse, with the rationale being that if you paid little or nothing for your education, you should eat whatever crumbs fall of the table in you direction. But I think that the game is changing, as technology increasingly undercuts the barriers to entry to this business. I am not just talking about online universities (which, for the most part, have gone for the low hanging fruit) or the experiments in online learning from &lt;a href="http://web.mit.edu/spouses/newcomers_guide/learning/education/distance_learning.html" target="_blank"&gt;MIT&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="https://www.ai-class.com/" target="_blank"&gt;Stanford&lt;/a&gt; and other universities. These are evolutionary changes that build on the university system and don't challenge it. I am talking about a whole group of young companies that have made their presence felt by offering new tools for delivering class content and learning. I am convinced that the education market is going to be upended in the next decade and that the new model is going to do to universities what Amazon has done to brick and mortar retailers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To back up my point, I am running an experiment this semester with the classes that I am teaching at the Stern School of Business: Corporate Finance, a first-year MBA class, and Valuation, an elective. I have taught these classes for more than 25 years now and have tried to make the material and the lectures available to the rest of the world, but I have never formally tracked those taking these classes online. In fact, if you were not an MBA student in the class, taking the class online would have required you to forage through my website for materials and keep track of what's going on. And I would have no idea that you even were taking the class... So, I want to change that..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Last semester, I used a company called Coursekit to package and organize my class and was impressed with their clean look and responsiveness to my requests. This semester, which starts in a few days, I have created a coursekit page for each class that is focused on just online students. I will use this page to deliver content (lecture notes, handouts and assignments that those who are in my physical class get), webcasts of lectures (though not in real time, but the links should show up about an hour after the actual class ends ) and even the exams (you can take them and grade them yourself). The site also has a social media component, where you can start or join discussion topics, which I hope will provide the element of interaction that is missing when you do an online course. When you do get to the home page for Coursekit, you will notice my mugshot in the entry way. I promise you that I have zero financial interest in the company but I really want to see it succeed, because I think the education business needs to be shaken up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first session for both classes is on Monday, January 30. If you want to take these classes online, here is what you need to do:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;a. Corporate finance class&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;What is it?&lt;/i&gt; This is my "big picture" class about how financial principles govern how a business should be run. It looks at everything that a business does, through the lens of finance, and classifies them into investment, financing and dividend decisions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Who can use it? &lt;/i&gt;I am biased but I think that everyone can use a corporate finance class: entrepreneurs starting new businesses, managers at established businesses and investors valuing these businesses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;How do you join?&lt;/i&gt; Go to the site (&lt;a href="http://coursekit.com/finance"&gt;http://coursekit.com/finance&lt;/a&gt;). Enter &lt;b&gt;RWHZYG&lt;/b&gt; as your code and you can then register for the class. Once you are registered, you will automatically be put into this page, every time you enter the site.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;b. Valuation&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;What is it?&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;This is a valuation class and it is about valuing any type of business: private or public, large or small and across markets. My focus is on providing the tools that will allow you to create your solution to valuation challenges, since new ones keep popping up.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Who can use it?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;While investors interested in valuing companies may be the obvious target, I teach the class more generally to be useful (I hope) to managers running the businesses and those who are just curious about value.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;How do you join?&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;Go to the site (&lt;a href="http://coursekit.com/app#course/b40.3331.damodaran"&gt;http://coursekit.com/app#course/b40.3331.damodaran&lt;/a&gt;). Enter &lt;b&gt;EH7WZN&lt;/b&gt; as your code and you can then register for the class. Once you are registered, you will automatically be put into this page, every time you enter the site.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just to be clear, my first obligation is to the students in my MBA classes and I will not stint or compromise on that obligation, but I view delivering a great learning experience to those taking the class online as a close second. Note also that &lt;u&gt;you will not get any credit from NYU for taking this class&lt;/u&gt;. While I will give you the grading templates to grade your own exams and evaluate your own assignments, I will not be able to give you direct feedback on your work. But then again, the price (at zero) is set right. So, these classes definitely come with a money back guarantee. In fact, the more the merrier... So, pass the message in this post on to any friends who may be interested. See you in cyber space on Monday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-2243162625105457814?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/2243162625105457814/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=2243162625105457814' title='11 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2243162625105457814'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2243162625105457814'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2012/01/university-business-model-is-failure.html' title='My small challenge to the &quot;university&quot; business model'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-2401351958105510209</id><published>2012-01-21T16:47:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-21T16:47:51.879-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Snowmen and Shovels: Investing Lessons?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;I live near New York and woke up this morning to our first snowstorm of the winter (we had a freak one in the fall but no snow in November and December). As I looked out of my window, I heard two sounds. The first was of small children squealing in delight, as they tromped through the snow and started building snowmen and throwing snowballs. The second was the grating sound of snow shovels being used by their (mostly morose) parents to clear the snow from their driveways. Three things came to mind. The first was the oddity of the same phenomenon (a snow storm) evoking such different reactions from two different groups. The other was the irony &amp;nbsp;that the parents were one day (long ago in the past) happy to see the snow and today's &amp;nbsp;happy children will one day grow up and be wielding their own snow shovels. The third is that a week from now when it warms up, the snowmen will melt away, and the unshoveled driveways will look just as good as the shoveled ones. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am sure that there are some deep life lessons in this phenomenon but I am not a philosopher. I do see some investing and valuation lessons in snowmen and shovels. After all, you can divide the world of active investors into two broad camps: growth investors and value investors. Consider the extremes in each camp. Extreme growth investors (you know the ones.. they go for momentum, love IPOs and are dazzled by high growth) remind me of the happy children, looking at snow and seeing snowmen, whereas extreme value investors (and you also know these ones.. they love net net investing and read Ben Graham's Security Analysis for inspiration) &amp;nbsp;more closely resemble the snow-shoveling parents. Each group views the other with disdain. Extreme value investors consider growth investors to be dilettantes, unserious and unwilling to grow up, who see the world through rose-colored lens. Extreme growth investors view value investors as boring, stuck-in-the-mud pessimists, who see only the dark side of things. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, which side is right? I think both sides are right and both are wrong. While each side sees a portion of reality, each side is also missing a piece of the real world. While the value investing group is right in its view that most growth companies will not make it through the challenges of the real world, the growth investing group is also right in its view that some of these growth companies will be the big winners of the future. By staying dogmatic, both groups open themselves to significant investing/valuation mistakes.&amp;nbsp;A growth investor who closes his eyes to the very real likelihood that a growth company will not survive will over value that company. By the same token, a value investor who insists on incorporating only the worst case scenarios, estimates cash flows “conservatively” and then applies a huge “margin of safety” before investing will never find growth companies to be bargains.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The key to investing, as in so much in life, is to maintain balance, recognizing that dreams sometimes come true, while keeping your feet grounded in reality.&amp;nbsp;Put in valuation terms, the key to valuing a company well is to estimate what will happen (to earnings and cash flows) not only in good scenarios (let’s call these the snowman scenarios) but also in bad ones (the shovel scenarios). &amp;nbsp;It is a challenge I face whenever I do valuation. As I value a company, I have to constantly stop and look at the assumptions I am making and whether I am tilting too much to one side (snowman or shovel). If I find myself tipping too much into the “snowman” camp, I have to bring in some of my “shovel” side to play to get back to synch. If, on the other hand, I am letting my pessimistic shovel side dominate, I have to consciously force my fun snowman side come into play.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, here is how I am going to start today’s path back to balance. I shoveled this morning, just before I came in and wrote this post. My kids are too “old” to enjoy building snowmen, but I am not. I am going to go out and build a snowman, make a snow angel and perhaps throw some snowballs. Why should those kids have all the fun?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-2401351958105510209?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/2401351958105510209/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=2401351958105510209' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2401351958105510209'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2401351958105510209'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2012/01/snowmen-and-shovels-investing-lessons.html' title='Snowmen and Shovels: Investing Lessons?'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-1094139112982502165</id><published>2012-01-14T13:48:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-14T13:59:11.498-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Private Equity: Hero or Villain?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;The battle for the Republican presidential nomination seems to have claimed another "financial markets" casualty, at least in public opinion. In the last few weeks, we have seen Mitt Romney, who made his fortune at Bain Consulting, attacked for being a heartless, job-destroying private equity investor. I prefer not to enter political debates, but some of the critiques of private equity are so misdirected and over the top that I have to believe that these critics have no sense of what private equity is, the companies that they target and what they do at these companies.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;What is private equity?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;If asked to provide a prototype of a private equity investor, many critics present you with &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Gekko" target="_blank"&gt;Gordon Gekko &lt;/a&gt;, endowed with all of the characteristics that they want to attribute to a villain: a greedy, immoral man who delights in inflicting pain on the less fortunate. I could tell you that most private equity investors that I know don't even come close to that stereotype, but that is unlikely to convince anyone. In my view, here are the three ingredients for an investor to qualify to be a private equity investor:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Equity&lt;/u&gt;: At the risk of stating the obvious, to be a private equity investor, you have to be an investor in equity, either in publicly traded companies (as stock) or in private business (as owners' equity). So any criticism of private equity that segues into mortgage backed securities, which are generally debt, or into overreach at investment banks prior to 2008 is mixing up its villains.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Activist&lt;/u&gt;: A second feature of that separates private equity investors from most other equity investors is that they are activist, rather than passive investors. Thus, you and I, as passive investors, may buy stock in a company, believing it to be under valued or sub optimally managed, and then sit back and hope that the price moves up. An activist investor would buy stock in the same company and put in motion actions aimed at changing the way the company is managed (shutting down bad businesses, take on more debt, pay more dividends) or in fixing the reasons for under valuation (spin off, split offs, divestitures).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Private&lt;/u&gt;: While activist equity investors have been around as long as markets have been around, there is a third aspect to private equity investing that sets it apart. Private equity investors preserve the option (though they don't always use it) of "taking private" some of their targeted publicly traded companies. In effect, they remove these companies from the public space, run them as private companies for a period of time (during which they make changes), and then either go public again or sell them to other public companies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;With this definition in place, you still see diversity within this group. Broadly speaking, private equity investors can be classified into three categories: lone wolves (like Carl Icahn, Nelson Peltz and Bill Ackman), institutional activists (mutual funds and pension funds that trace their lineage back to the Calpers fund in the 1980s and are activist on the side) and activist hedge funds (which is where I would put Romney's Bain fund, KKR and Blackstone).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;What types of companies do private equity investors target?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If activist investors hope to generate their returns from changing the way companies are run, they should target poorly managed companies for their campaigns.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Institutional and individual activists do seem to follow the script, targeting companies that are less profitable and have delivered lower returns than their peer group.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hedge fund actvists seem to focus their attention on a different group. A &lt;a href="http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/papers/1338.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;study of 888 campaigns&lt;/a&gt; mounted by activist hedge funds between 2001 and 2005 finds that the typical target companies  are small to mid cap companies, have above average market liquidity, trade at low price to book value ratios, are profitable with solid cash flows and pay their CEOs more than other companies in their peer group.&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1630481" target="_blank"&gt;Another study&lt;/a&gt; of the motives of activist hedge funds uncovered that the primary motive is under valuation, as evidenced in the figure below.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PUG7G__m8YM/TxHoRsdH3lI/AAAAAAAAAIw/Qxq87mRx7fY/s1600/motives.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="217" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PUG7G__m8YM/TxHoRsdH3lI/AAAAAAAAAIw/Qxq87mRx7fY/s320/motives.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In summary, the typical activist hedge fund behaves more like a passive value investor, looking for under valued companies, than like an activist investor, looking for poorly managed companies. Activists individuals are more likely to target poorly managed companies and push for change.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;What do they do at (or to) these targeted companies?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;The essence of activist investing is that incumbentmaangement is challenged, but on what dimensions is the challenge mounted? And how successfully? A &lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1646471" target="_blank"&gt;study of 1164 activist investing campaigns&lt;/a&gt; between 2000 and 2007 documents someinteresting facts about activism:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Two-thirds of activist     investors quit before making formal demands of the target. The failure     rate in activist investing is very high.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Among those activist     investors who persist, less than 20% request a board seat, about 10%     threaten a proxy fight and only 7% carry through on that threat.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Activists who push through     and make demands of managers are most successful (success rate in percent     next to each action) when they demand the taking private of a target     (41%), the sale of a target (32%), restructuring of inefficient operations     (35%) or additional disclosure (36%). They are least successful when they     ask for higher dividends/buybacks (17%), removal of the CEO (19%) or     executive compensation changes (15%). &amp;nbsp;Overall, activists succeed about 29% of     the time in their demands of management.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;A review paper of hedge fund activist investing finds that the medianholding for an activist hedge fund is 6.3% and even at the 75&lt;sup&gt;th&lt;/sup&gt;percentile, the holding is about 15%. Put differently, most activist hedgefunds try to change management practices with well below a majority holding inthe company. The same paper also documents an average holding period of about 2years for an activist investment, though the median is much lower (about 250days).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: .25in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Following through and looking atcompanies that have been targeted and sometimes controlled by activistinvestors, we can classify the changes that they make into four groups as potential value enhancement measures:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol start="1" style="margin-top: 0in;" type="a"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Asset deployment and aperating     performance: &lt;/u&gt;There is mixed evidence on this count, depending upon the     type of activist investor group looked at and the time period. Divestitures     of assets do pick up after activism, albeit not dramatically, for targeted     firms. There is evidence that firms targeted by individual activists do     see an improvement in return on capital and other profitability measures,     relative to their peer groups, whereas firms targeted by hedge fund activists     don’t see a similar jump in profitability measures. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Capital Structure&lt;/u&gt;:     On financial leverage, there is a moderate increase of about 10% in debt     ratios at firms that are targeted by activist hedge funds but the increase     is not dramatics or statistically significant. There are dramatic     increases in financial leverage at a small subset of firms that are     targets of activism, but the conventional wisdom that activist investors go overboard in their use of debt is not borne out in the overall     sample. One study does note a troubling phenomenon, at least for bond     holders in targeted firms, with bond prices dropping about 3-5% in the     years after firms are targeted by activists, with a higher likelihood of     bond rating downgrades.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Dividend policy:&lt;/u&gt;     The firms that are targeted by activists generally increase their     dividends and return more cash to stockholders, with the cash returned as     a percentage of earnings increasing by about 10% to 20%.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;Corporate governance&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;The biggest effect is on corporate governance. The likelihood of CEO turnover jumps at firms that have been targeted by activists, increasing 5.5% over the year prior to the activism. In addition, CEO compensation decreases in the targeted firms in the years after the activism, with pay tied more closely to performance&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: 27px;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Do private equity investors make high returns?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left; text-indent: 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Theoverall evidence on whether activist investors make money is mixed and variesdepending upon which group of activist investors are studied and how returnsare measured. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Activist     mutual funds seem to have had the lowest payoff to their activism, with     little change accruing to the corporate governance, performance or stock     prices of targeted firms.&amp;nbsp;Markets seem to recognize this, with studies that have examined proxy     fights finding that there is little or no stock price reaction to proxy     proposals by activist institutional investors. &amp;nbsp;Activist hedge funds, on the other hand,     seem to earn substantial excess returns, ranging from 7-8% on an     annualized basis at the low end to 20% or more at the high end.&amp;nbsp;Individual activists seem to fall somewhere in the middle, earning higher     returns than institutions but lower returns than hedge funds.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;While the     average excess returns earned by hedge funds and individual activists is     positive, there is substantial volatility&amp;nbsp;     in these returns and the magnitude of the excess return is     sensitive to the benchmark used and the risk adjustment process. Put in     less abstract terms, activist investors frequently suffer setbacks in     their campaigns and the payoff is neither guaranteed nor predictable. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Targeting     the right firms, acquiring stock in these companies, demanding board     representation and conducting proxy contests are all expensive and the     returns made across the targered firms have to exceed the costs of     activism. While none of the studies that we have reference hitherto     factored these costs, one study that did concluded that the cost of an     activist campaign at an average firm was $10.71 million and that the &lt;u&gt;net     return to activist investing, if these costs are considered, shrink     towards zero&lt;/u&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;The     average returns across activist investors obscures a key component, which     is that the distribution is skewed with the most positive returns being     delivered by the activist investors in the top quartile; the median     activist investor may very well just break even, especially after     accounting for the cost of activism.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Here is an indisputable fact. If you are a stockholder in a publicly traded company, the entry of a private equity investor into your stockholder ranks is good news, since stock prices go up substantially:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-b8ZxSwA5hmE/TxHv033991I/AAAAAAAAAI4/lt0hAh4qxSQ/s1600/hedgefundreturns.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="271" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-b8ZxSwA5hmE/TxHv033991I/AAAAAAAAAI4/lt0hAh4qxSQ/s400/hedgefundreturns.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Is private equity good or bad for the markets? How about for the economy? And for society?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For some of you, this entire post may be missing the point of the criticism, which is that private equity investors are job killers, not job creators. To me, that criticism is misplaced, because you cannot measure the success of a business by the jobs it creates or saves, but by the value it creates for its stockholders, by making money, and for its customers, by providing a needed product or service to customers. In the process, if it is successful, it will hire people and create jobs.&lt;br /&gt;In fact, today's New York Times &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/14/us/politics/cast-as-romneys-victim-gaffney-sc-says-huh.html?_r=1&amp;amp;hp" target="_blank"&gt;carries a story&lt;/a&gt; about one of the companies targeted by Bain in its Romney days, where 150 people lost their jobs, and it specifies that the company primary products was photo albums. Thus, while it is easy to blame Bain for the layoffs, the real reasons lay in a shifting market, where digital photography and computerized albums were replacing conventional photographs. The story's bigger point is that the people in the town have moved on, found other businesses to work for and are frankly surprised by the attention.&lt;br /&gt;Since the critics are using fictional characters to beat up private equity investing, I will use one of my favorite fictional characters, from a great movie, "&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Other-Peoples-Money-Danny-DeVito/dp/B0006J28N2" target="_blank"&gt;Other People's Money&lt;/a&gt;", to counter:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MfL7STmWZ1c" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If private equity investors are primarily interested in slimming down companies and creating value for stockholders, do they create value for society? I believe that they do, and for two reasons. First, they are the battering rams that we use as passive investors to initiate and create change at public companies, and especially at companies that need to change. Second, even when private equity investors target companies, force them to divest assets, slim down and pay out the cash to stockholders, the cash does not disappear into thin air. The stockholders who receive the cash use it to pay for products and services (which creates jobs) and to invest in other companies with better growth prospects (which in turn hire more people).&lt;br /&gt;In fact, my response to those who have a problem with private equity would be to ask the following question: Which aspect of private equity investing do you want to ban? Assuming that it is not equity investing collectively, it has to be either the activism or the "taking private" components. And what would that accomplish? Banning these practices would leave incumbent managers ensconced at publicly traded companies, unchallenged and unwilling to make changes, and the only jobs saved will be theirs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Bottom line&lt;/u&gt;: If you don't like Mitt Romney, don't vote for him. Find a good reason, though! The fact that he worked at a private equity firm, and was good at his job, should not be that reason. In fact, since the US government looks more and more like a badly managed enterprise in need a major restructuring, a "good private equity investor" in charge may be just what the doctor ordered.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-1094139112982502165?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/1094139112982502165/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=1094139112982502165' title='21 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1094139112982502165'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1094139112982502165'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2012/01/private-equity-hero-or-villain.html' title='Private Equity: Hero or Villain?'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PUG7G__m8YM/TxHoRsdH3lI/AAAAAAAAAIw/Qxq87mRx7fY/s72-c/motives.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>21</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-469827838248442608</id><published>2011-12-31T18:42:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-31T20:03:11.781-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Auld Lang Syne: Remembering 2011</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;There are only a couple of hours left in 2011 in New York and it is already the new year in many parts of the world. Let me spend my last post for this year, looking back at the year that was and looking forward to the year to come, using a few of my favorite market props: cash flows/earnings, market prices, risk free rates and risk premiums.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;It was a good year for earnings at US companies, with earnings on the S&amp;amp;P 500 companies rising about 16%. That makes what happens to stock prices a little puzzling, since the S&amp;amp;P 500 index started the year at 1257.64 and ended the year at 1257.60. As a result , the aggregate PE ratio for the index declined from 15.03 at the start of the year to 12.96 at the end.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;It was an even better year for cash flows: dividends on the S&amp;amp;P 500 companies rose 12.5%, but buybacks surged more than 80%. The total dollar buybacks in 2011 (at least for the four quarters ending September 2011) almost matched buybacks in 2006, though they still remained well below the historic highs set in 2007. While the dividend yield on the index remained anemic (2.07%) the total cash flow (including buybacks) yield on the index was 5.90%, again well above the ten-year average of 4.72%.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The ten year treasury bond which started the year at 3.29% ended the year at 1.87%, the first time it has ended a year at below 2% in the last 50 years. The drop in the &amp;nbsp;rates also made US treasuries one of the better investments for the year, with the ten year bond returning 16.04% for the year; the price appreciation component accounted for 12.75%. Ironic, don't you think? After all, this was the year of the great S&amp;amp;P &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/08/chill-dude-it-is-not-ratings-downgrade.html" target="_blank"&gt;downgrade of the US sovereign rating&lt;/a&gt; that I talked about on my summer vacation in August. Are lower interest rates good news? I don't think so and I &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/09/risk-free-rates-and-value-dealing-with.html" target="_blank"&gt;posted on the point&lt;/a&gt; earlier this year.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;As many of you know, I have been estimating an implied equity risk premium for the S&amp;amp;P 500 for a &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/histimpl.xls" target="_blank"&gt;long time&lt;/a&gt;, annually until 2008 and &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPbymonth.xls" target="_blank"&gt;monthly since September 2008&lt;/a&gt;. I back out the premium using the level of the index and expected cash flows in the future. The premium started the year at 5.20%, surged during the summer to hit a high of 7.64% at the end of September and &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPDec11.xls" target="_blank"&gt;ended the year at 6.04%&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp;The fact that stocks were flat for the year (the return with dividends was 2.07%) had the opposite effect on the historical risk premium (where you look at the difference between annual returns on stocks and treasuries over long periods of past history), with the &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/datasets/histretSP.xls" target="_blank"&gt;historical risk premium dropping to 4.10%&lt;/a&gt;. After a long period (1981-2007), where historical risk premiums exceeded implied premiums, this is the fourth year in a row that implied premiums have exceeded historical premiums.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WjuplfSK_qE/Tv_W_noDvXI/AAAAAAAAAIo/s7-4K3CnaEI/s1600/histvsimpl.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="271" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WjuplfSK_qE/Tv_W_noDvXI/AAAAAAAAAIo/s7-4K3CnaEI/s400/histvsimpl.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;So much for last year! What does all this tell us about next year? It strikes me that the numbers are sending discordant messages. The earnings and cash flows point to a recovery, at least in corporate earnings, the treasury bond market is awfully pessimistic about future growth and the stock market vacillates between euphoria and despair. I really have no idea what next year will bring, but I am willing to make a guess. I expect the treasury bond market to grudgingly acknowledge higher economic growth prospects and move up (to 3%), equity risk premiums to become less volatile and move back towards lower numbers (5-5.5%). Buybacks and dividends will stay strong but will stabilize and earnings growth will moderate.&amp;nbsp;The net effect will be to make the stock market a more hospitable place to invest and the bond market a less attractive investment. So, I am adding to my equity exposure, selling my treasury bonds and praying that the Eurozone does not turn my predictions to dust.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;I apologize for both the US-centric and macro nature of this post but I am starting on my annual data update this week. Over the next ten days, I will be exploring the raw data that I have downloaded on 50,000+ companies globally, since the close of trading yesterday, and will be generating my &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/data.html" target="_blank"&gt;industry average tables&lt;/a&gt;. During that analysis, I will be looking at how equities have moved globally and world-wide trends in both valuation multiples (PE, Price to book, EV/EBITDA etc.) and corporate finance variables (dividends, debt ratios, returns on equity/capital). I will have a much more detailed post when I am done but I look forward to learning a great deal more from the numbers than from listening to expert prognostications.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;So, happy New Year! I wish you, your families and your loved ones the very best for the coming year! Be happy and healthy!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-469827838248442608?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/469827838248442608/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=469827838248442608' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/469827838248442608'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/469827838248442608'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/12/auld-lang-syne-remembering-2011.html' title='Auld Lang Syne: Remembering 2011'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WjuplfSK_qE/Tv_W_noDvXI/AAAAAAAAAIo/s7-4K3CnaEI/s72-c/histvsimpl.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-8273536047779993811</id><published>2011-12-17T11:40:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-17T11:40:01.459-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Do markets punish long term thinking? Amazon as a case study</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;This morning's New York Times has an &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/17/business/at-amazon-jeff-bezos-talks-long-term-and-means-it.html?_r=2&amp;amp;ref=business" target="_blank"&gt;article from one my favorite business writers, James Stewart, on Amazon&lt;/a&gt;. His focus, largely admiring, is on the fact that Amazon has made decisions that hurt it in the short term but create value in the long term. To provide at least two examples, he talks about Amazon's decisions to cut prices on products and go for a larger market share and to invest in in the Kindle, their book reader. The tenor of the article is that the market has short sightedly punished the company for its long term focus. Stewart uses one piece of anecdotal evidence to back up his claim that markets are short term: the stock price reaction to the earnings report on October 25, when Amazon announced earnings and revenues that were largely as expected but announced that it had been spending a great deal more than investors thought it had to deliver that growth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am no knee jerk defender of financial markets and accept the fact that markets not only make mistakes in assessing value, but also that a subset of investors are short term and over react to earnings announcements. In fact, I am sure that there are companies that you can point to that have been unfairly treated by markets for their long term focus (and other companies that have been unfairly rewarded for delivering short term results at the expense of long term value). I just don't think Amazon is the example I would use to bring this point on.&amp;nbsp;Let's start with some general facts. Here is how the market has and is continuing to punish Amazon for its long term focus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;In the last decade, Amazon has seen its market capitalization increase from $4.55 billion in 2001 to $82 billion in 2011; the market cap for Amazon at the peak of the dot com boom was only $30 billion. An investor who bought Amazon stock in 2001 would have generated a cumulated return of 1300% over the last 10 years.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;In November 2011, after the earnings report that Mr. Stewart alludes to, Amazon was trading at 96 times trailing earnings and at two times trailing revenues. In contrast, the median PE ratio for a retail firm was about 15 and the median EV to revenue multiples was 0.8. By my estimate, Amazon is one of the most richly priced large retailers in the world.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Over the last decade, the firm has made multiple bets on growth and asked the market to trust it to make the right judgments. For the most part, its actions have been welcomed by markets that have been willing to look past disappointing earnings reports at the future. Jeff Bezos is celebrated as a great CEO, with &lt;a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/45035617/Is_Jeff_Bezos_the_New_Steve_Jobs" target="_blank"&gt;comparisons made to Steve Jobs&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;So, why was the market reaction to Amazon's last earnings report so brutal? As someone who has valued Amazon almost every year since 1998, I think I can provide some historical perspective. Amazon has been, at alternate times, revered and reviled by financial markets. In January 2000, at the peak of the dot com boom, based on my estimate of value for Amazon at the time, it was over valued by about 60%. A year later, based again on my assessment of value, it was under valued by about 50%. During the 12 years that I have valued the company, it has been overvalued in 7 of the years and under valued in 5 of those years. Since the beginning of 2009, notwithstanding the reaction to the last earnings report, investors have been on their manic phase with Amazon, pushing the stock price up more than 300% (from $54 to over $200). At its price of almost $200/share, just before its October earnings report, Amazon was valued to perfection and beyond. In fact, for it to be worth $200/share, it would have to deliver about increase revenues to more than $200 billion in ten years, while increasing its pre-tax operating margin from 2.5% to 4%, while generating a return on capital of 70%+ on its new investments. If you disagree on these assumptions, feel free to change them for yourself in the &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/amazon2011.xls" target="_blank"&gt;attached spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;It is the last item that I would draw your attention to, because the last earnings report was a sobering reminder that while Amazon will continue to grow, the growth is not going to be easy or cheap. In my view, the market is still much too optimistic about the quality of Amazon's growth going forward and I think it remains over priced. In Mr. Stewart's world, that would make me a short term investor, but not in mine. At the risk of repeating a theme that has run through my posts for the last few months, growth has value only if it is delivered at a reasonable cost and a growth stock is cheap only if the market price reflects that cost. Amazon does not look cheap to me, even with a great CEO and a long term focus!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-8273536047779993811?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/8273536047779993811/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=8273536047779993811' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8273536047779993811'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8273536047779993811'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/12/do-markets-punish-long-term-thinking.html' title='Do markets punish long term thinking? Amazon as a case study'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-8008678170155472901</id><published>2011-12-16T10:50:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-16T18:04:22.729-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Living within your limits: Thoughts on Research In Motion (RIM)</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;I have a sixteen-year old daughter who calls me "old man" and while I know she is using the term lovingly (of course.. I believe the best about my kids), the moniker still strikes home as a reminder that I am older and that age brings limits that I can choose to ignore at my own peril. I know that I can no longer go to bed late and get up early, that I have to watch what I eat and that I need my reading glasses to read restaurant menus. As I watched Research in Motion (RIM) go through &lt;a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/231902154" target="_blank"&gt;painful contortions &lt;/a&gt;in the financial markets yesterday, I was reminded that companies also go through an aging process, and how they deal with the limits that come with age determines their value to investors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;RIM has had a pretty good run as a company, but they have a problem. Their core technology which powers the Blackberry is a cash cow but it is one that faces corrosion in market share, as smart phone users turn to Androids and iPhones, with their more open operating systems and extensive app libraries. As the CEO of RIM, you have two choices.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Go for growth:&lt;/u&gt; You can invest hefty portions of the cash flows from your core technology back into the business in R&amp;amp;D and new products, hoping for a breakthrough, but you are competing against two companies, Apple and Google, that have more resources and imagination than you do. You may be able to eke out growth but the amounts you would have to reinvest to generate that growth may make it a losing proposition for your stockholders.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Go for cash&lt;/u&gt;: You can accept the reality that you have a product with a limited life but solid cash flows. You invest just enough to keep this product on its feet and a cash flow generator for the near future, and give up on new products and technologies. &amp;nbsp;You also change your capital structure and dividend policy to reflect your new status as a limited life, cash cow: use more debt in your financing and you return more of your cash to stockholders as dividends or stock buybacks. You are, in effect, liquidating yourself over time, and while your stock price will approach zero by the end of the Blackberry's life, your investors would have collected enough cash flows not to care.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;So, what are the value implications of your choice? In the fiscal year ended February 2011, RIM reported pre-tax operating income of $4.6 billion and net income of $3.4 billion, but this income was after R&amp;amp;D expenses of $$1.4 billion. While their earnings has plummeted in the last two quarters (operating income in the 12 months ended November 2011 was down to $3.4 billion), and some of the drop can be attributed to a loss of market share for Blackberries, the drop was accentuated by losses on new products such as the Playbook tablet. &amp;nbsp;In fact, let's be conservative and assume that the operating income in 2012 will come in at less than $ 2.5 billion and that RIM, if it gives up on developing new products, can cut $ 1 billion out of R&amp;amp;D. (The remaining $400 million or more can go to maintaining the Blackberry Franchise). That would translate into a base pre-tax operating income of roughly $ 3.5 billion and after-tax cash flows of $3 billion. Assume further that you can milk the franchise for five more years, losing 20% of your customers each year. On an after-tax basis, using a tax rate of 30% and a cost of capital of 9% (which is the cut off for the top quartile of US companies), you get a value of about $8.125 billion. At its current market capitalization of $7.3 billion and enterprise value of $ 6 billion, that would make RIM a bargain (under valued by about $2 billion). In fact, make your own estimates and judgments, using this &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/RIM.xls" target="_blank"&gt;spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt;. So, what can go wrong? If managers continue to operate under the delusion that they can recreate their glory days and invest on that presumption, they can very easily wipe out the $ 2 billion difference.&amp;nbsp;In fact, I think that the market is building in the expectation that RIM will continue &amp;nbsp;not to act its age, investing as if it were a growth company, whose glory days lie ahead of it.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;As a potential stockholder in RIM, here is my unsolicited advice to the management of the company. Rather than fight the critiques of your product (that it is closed, corporate and limited), embrace them. In fact, I have names for your next few models: the &lt;i&gt;Boring Blackberry&lt;/i&gt;, the &lt;i&gt;Blackberry Funsucker&lt;/i&gt; and the &lt;i&gt;Blackberry Stolid&lt;/i&gt;. Let's face it! The primary market for Blackberries is composed of paranoid (often with good reason) corporate entities that worry about their employees revealing business secrets and playing games on their iPhone and Android Apps, and you will appeal to them with your "cant have fun with these" Blackberries. Disband your research and development teams, forget about product revamps and don't even dream about more Playbooks. In effect, accept that you are an "old company" and behave like one. Your stockholders will be deeply grateful!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-8008678170155472901?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/8008678170155472901/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=8008678170155472901' title='24 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8008678170155472901'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8008678170155472901'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/12/living-within-your-limits-thoughts-on.html' title='Living within your limits: Thoughts on Research In Motion (RIM)'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>24</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-7678576986772245757</id><published>2011-11-27T08:32:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-07T14:53:07.055-08:00</updated><title type='text'>How much diversification is too much?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: .5in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;As an investor, should you put allof your money in one stock or should you spread your bets across manyinvestments? If it is the latter, how many investments should you have in yourportfolio? The debate is an old one and there are many views but they fallbetween two extremes. At one end is the advice that you get from a believer inefficient markets: be maximally diversfied, across asset classes, and withineach asset class, across as many assets you can hold: the proverbial “marketportfolio” includes every traded asset in the market, held in proportion to itsmarket value. At the other is the “go all in” investor, who believes that ifyou find a significantly undervalued company, you should put all or most ofyour money in that company, rather than dilute your upside potential byspreading your bets. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: .5in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Cuban versus Bogle&lt;/i&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;These arguments got media attention recently, largely because two high-profile investors took opposite positions. The first salvo was fired by Mark Cuban, who made his substantial fortune (estimated by Forbes to be $2.5 billion in 2011) as an entrepreneur who founded and sold Broadcast.com for $ 6 billion by Yahoo!, at the peak of the dot com boom. Cuban's profile has increased since, largely from his ownership of the Dallas Mavericks, last year's winners of the NBA championship, and his &lt;a href="http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/164310/20110616/mark-cuban-dallas-mavericks.htm" target="_blank"&gt;intemperate outbursts&lt;/a&gt;, about referees, players and the NBA in general. With typical understatement, Cuban &lt;a href="http://blogs.barrons.com/focusonfunds/2011/08/15/mark-cuban-diversification-is-for-idiots-apple-needs-to-fall-more-to-be-attractive/" target="_blank"&gt;claimed that diversification is for idiots&lt;/a&gt; and that investors, unless they have access to information or deals, should hold cash, since hedge funds have such a tremendous advantage over them. In response, John Bogle, the father of the index fund business, countered that "the math (for diversification) has been proved over and over again. It's not just the first thing an investor should think about, but the second, the third and probably the fourth and the fifth thing investors should think about".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: .5in;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Thelimiting cases&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="line-height: 150%;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;So, shouldyou diversify? And if so, how much should you diversify? The answers to thesequestions depend upon two factors: (a) &lt;u&gt;how certain you feel about yourassessment of&amp;nbsp; value &lt;/u&gt;for individualassets (or markets) and (b) &lt;u&gt;how certain you are about the market priceadjusting to that value &lt;/u&gt;within your specified time horizon. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: .25in; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;·&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;At one limit, if you are absolutely certainabout your assessment of value for an asset and that the market price willadjust to that value within your time horizon, you should put all of your moneyin that investment. Though this may seem like the impossible dream, there aretwo possible scenarios where it may play out:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: .75in; mso-list: l2 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;o&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;Finite life securities (Options, Futures andBonds)&lt;/u&gt;: If you find an option trading for less than its exercise value: youshould invest all of your money in buying as many options as you can andexercise those options to make a sure profit. In general, this is what falls under the umbrella of pure arbitrage&amp;nbsp; and it is feasible onlywith finite lived assets (such as options, futures and fixed incomessecurities), where the maturity date provides a endpoint by which time the priceadjustment has to occur. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: .75in; mso-list: l2 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;o&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;A perfect tip&lt;/u&gt;: On a more cynical note, youcan make guaranteed profits if you are the receipient of inside informationabout an upcoming news releases (earnings, acquisition), but only if there isno doubt about the price impact of the release (at least in terms of direction)and the timing of the news release. (Rumors don’t provide perfect informationand most inside information has an element of uncertainty associated with it.)The problem, of course, is that you would be guilty of insider trading and may end up in jail... .&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: .25in; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;·&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;At the other limit, if you have no idea whatassets are cheap and which ones are expensive (which is the efficient marketproposition), you should be as diversified as you can get, given transactionscosts. If you have no transactions costs, you should own a little piece of everything. After all, you gain nothing by holding back on diversification and yourportfolio will be deliver less return per unit of risk taken.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Most active investors tend to fall between these twoextremes. If you invest in equities, at least, it is inevitable that you haveto diversify, for two reasons. The first is that you can never value an equityinvestment with certainty; the expected cash flows are estimates and riskadjustment is not always precise. The second is that even if your valuation isprecise, there is no explicit date by which market prices have to adjust; thereis no equivalent to a maturity date or an option expiration date for equities.A stock that is under or over priced can stay under or over priced for a long time, and even getmore under or over priced.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;There is one final point worth making. Note that how much you diversify will be based upon your perceptions of the quality of your valuations and the speed of market adjustment, but perceptions are not reality. In fact, psychologists have long noted (and behavioral economists have picked up the same theme) that human beings tend to have too much confidence in their own abilities and too little in the collective wisdom of the rest of the world. In other words, we tend to think our valuations are more precise than they really are and that the market adjustment will occur sooner than it really will.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;How diversified should you be?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Building onthe theme that diversification should be attuned to the precision of your valuations and the speed of market adjustment, the degree to which you should diversify will depend upon how yourinvestment strategy is structured, with an emphasis on the followingdimensions:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: .25in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;a.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;u&gt;Uncertatintyabout investment value&lt;/u&gt;: If your investment strategy requiresyou to buy mature companies that trade at low price earnings ratios, you mayneed to hold fewer stocks , than if it requires you to buy young, growthcompanies (where you are more uncertain about value). In fact, you can tie themargin of safety (referenced earlier in this chapter to how much you need todiversify; if you incorporate a higher &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/margin-of-safety-alternative-risk_16.html" target="_blank"&gt;margin of safety&lt;/a&gt; into your investing, you should feelmore comfortable holding a less diversfied portfolio. &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;As a general propostion, your response to more uncertainty should bemore diversification, not less.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: .25in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;b.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;u&gt;Marketcatalysts&lt;/u&gt;: To make money, the market price has to adjust towards yourestimated value. If you can provide a catalyst for the market adjustment(nudging or forcing the price towards value), you can hold fewer investmentsand be less diversifed than a completely passive investor who has no choice butto wait for the market adjustment to happen. Thus, you will need to hold fewerstocks as an activist investor than as an investor who picks stocks based upona PE screen. &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;Ironically, this would meanthat the more inefficient you believe markets are, the more diversified youwill need to be to allow for the unpredictability of market movements.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: .25in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo2; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;c.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;Time horizon&lt;/u&gt;: To the extent that theprice adjustment has to happen over your time horizon, having a longer timehorizon should allow you to have a less diversified portfolio. &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;As your liquidity needs rise, thus shortening your time horizon, you will haveto become more diversifed in your holdings.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;In summary, then, there is nothing irrational about holdingjust a few stocks in your portfolio, if they are mature companies andyou have built in a healthy margin of safety, and/or you have thepower to move markets. By the same token, it makes complete sense for otherinvestors to spread their bets widely, if they are investing in young, growthcompanies, and are unclear about how and when the market price will adjust to value.So, the choice is not between diversification and active investing, sinceyou can pick stocks and be diversified at the same time. It should be centering on &amp;nbsp;making theright decision on how much diversification works for you,.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Evidence from the field&lt;/i&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; So, howdiversified is the typical investor’s portfolo? And if it is relativelyundiversified, is it undiversifed for the right reasons? And what is the payoff or cost to being undiversified? The evidence from manystudies over the last decade or so is enlightening:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo3; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Investors are thinly diversified&lt;/u&gt;: The typicalinvestor is not well diversified across either asset classes, or within eachasset classes, across assets. A &lt;a href="http://www2.mccombs.utexas.edu/faculty/alok.kumar/GoetzmannKumarPortfDiv.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;study of 60,000 individual investor portfolios&lt;/a&gt;found that the median investor in this group (which was a representative sampleof the typical active investor in the United States) held three stocks and thatroughly 28% of all investors have portfolios composed of one stock. In a later study, the same authors find that not only do investors hold relatively few stocks but that these stocks tend to be highly correlated with each other (same sector or type of stock).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Many are thinly diversified for the wrongreasons&lt;/u&gt;: While the lack of diversfication can be justified if you have goodinformation or superior assessments of value, many of the undiversfiedinvestors in this study failed to diversfy for the wrong reasons. On average,not only did younger, poorer less eductated investors diversify less, but they, asa group, tend to be over confident in their abilities to pick stocks.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;And they pay a price for being thinlydiversified&lt;/u&gt;: Not surprisingly, investors who fail to diversify because they areover confident or unfamiliar with their choices pay a price. On average, theyearn about 2.40% less a year, on a risk adjusted basis, than their morediversified counterparts.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;But some undiversified investors are good stock pickers&lt;/u&gt;: On ahopeful note, there are clearly some active investors who hold back ondiversification for the right reasons, i.e., because they have betterassessments of value for stocks than the rest of the market and long timehorizons. A &lt;a href="http://business.illinois.edu/weisbenn/RESEARCH/PAPERS/JFQA_Concentration_Sept2008_613-656.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;study of 78,000 household portfolios&lt;/a&gt; finds that the among households wealthy enough to be diversified, those with more concentrated portfolios (holding one or two stocks) earn higher returns than those with more diversified portfolios (holding three or more stocks) by about, though they are also more volatile. The study goes on to note that the higher returns can be attributed to stock picking prowess and not to market timing or inside information.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bottom line&lt;/i&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Most investors are better off diversifying as much as theycan, investing in mutual funds and exchange traded funds, rather thanindividual stocks. Many investors who choose not to diversify do so for the wrong reasons (ignorance, over confidence, inertia) and end up paying dearly for that mistake. Some investors with superior value assesssment skils,disciplined investment practices and long time horizons can generate superiorprofits from holding smaller, relatively undiversified portfolios. Even if you believe that &amp;nbsp;you are in that elite group, be careful to not fall prey to hubris, where you become overconfident in your stock picking and market assessments and cut back ondiversification too much.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-7678576986772245757?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/7678576986772245757/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=7678576986772245757' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/7678576986772245757'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/7678576986772245757'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/11/how-much-diversification-is-too-much.html' title='How much diversification is too much?'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-3918800117003309697</id><published>2011-11-04T15:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-11-05T07:15:10.192-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Following up on Groupon</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;In my last post, I &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/11/are-you-ready-to-value-groupon.html"&gt;made an attempt to value Groupon&lt;/a&gt; and came up with $14.62/share, before the voting rightadjustment. Now that the offering is complete and the first day of trading isover, I thought it would be useful to take stock of general lessons that can bedrawn from this deal. The offering price was raised to $20/share and t&lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203716204577017773545604142.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories"&gt;he stock jumped another 40%&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;during the course of the day. So, here are a few questions that I am fielding today...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 0in; text-align: left; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;1.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;Is it possible that you are wrong in your assumptions and that other investors are far more optimistic aboutrevenue growth/ operating margins?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 0in; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Thereis no room for hubris in markets. Investors who do not admit to their mistakes,fix them and move on are doomed to pay a steep price. So, I will start with thepresumption that I am wrong and the market is right and assess the likelihood, using two techniques.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 0in; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Impliedgrowth/margins&lt;/u&gt;: The two key inputs in thisvaluation are revenue growth and the target operating margin. In the tablebelow, I changed both those numbers and assessed the impact on value per share. Ialso highlighted the combination of growth/margin assumptions that would get meto $28/share. For instance, if Groupon can maintain a revenue growth rate of70% a year for the next 5 years (which will give them revenues of $64 billion in ten years) and a targetoperating margin of 23% a year, the value per share is $39.81. Notice that there is no scenario where the revenue growth is less than 60% a year for the next five that delivers a value greater than $28/share. (There are a few odd quirks in the table, where the value decreases as the margin increases, for a given revenue growth rate. That is because the NOLs that you accumulate spill over into the terminal value. Suffice to say that if your plan with Groupon is for them to lose so much money that they will never run out of NOLs, you should think again...)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Z6rWo-2fsAY/TrRXPUUmtiI/AAAAAAAAAHA/AGKgjnbzDnk/s1600/breakeven.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="95" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Z6rWo-2fsAY/TrRXPUUmtiI/AAAAAAAAAHA/AGKgjnbzDnk/s400/breakeven.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;(Revenues in year 10 in brackets next to five year growth rate)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Simulations&lt;/u&gt;:In the last few years, I have used an add-on to Excel called &lt;a href="http://www.oracle.com/us/products/applications/crystalball/index.html?origref=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=oracle%20crystal%20ball&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=1&amp;amp;ved=0CDIQFjAA&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oracle.com%2Fus%2Fcrystalball%2Findex.html&amp;amp;ei=eGC0TsBCgoOAB7fmtZkE&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNFUke0GbBdvl0TEIDA8BdiSc_ZlPg&amp;amp;sig2=WtS30SQIjCo9K5qG0k-r1Q"&gt;Crystal Ball&lt;/a&gt; torun simulations. In a simulation, you input distributions for key inputs whereyou feel uncertain about the future. In the Groupon valuation, I made revenuegrowth and operating margin into distributions – compounded 5-year revenuegrowth is &lt;u&gt;uniformly distributed&lt;/u&gt; between 30% (pessimistic end) and 70%(optimistic limit) and the target operating margin is assumed to be &lt;u&gt;normallydistributed&lt;/u&gt;, with an average of 23% and a standard deviation of 4%.&amp;nbsp; I then ran 10,000 simulations,drawing from the distributions, and presents a distribution of values, shownbelow. Note that there is only a 15% chance that the value is greater than $28 (1500 outcomes out of the 10000 yielded values of $28 or higher). In fact, while the average value is around $14, there are far more outcomes under $10 than above... Put differently, you are not going to win on this stock most of the time, but if you do, you have to hope it is a big win.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QANZ7e9NXCI/TrRcg1FigiI/AAAAAAAAAHI/xFZTfeptEvw/s1600/simulation.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="245" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QANZ7e9NXCI/TrRcg1FigiI/AAAAAAAAAHI/xFZTfeptEvw/s400/simulation.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.75in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 0in; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 0in; text-align: left; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;2.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Is it a problem with the approach? D&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;oes DCFsystematically undervalue young, growth companies?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;As many of you know, I am a staunch defender of discounted cash flow valuation, but here are a couple of criticisms I have heard of the model (especially in the context of valuing young, growth companies like Groupon) that I want to address.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 0in; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;a. DCF valuation is inherently conservative. It will under value growth companies.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 0in; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;An analyst that I was chattingwith in the last day &amp;nbsp;was dismissive when I gave him the result of myGroupon valuation, and his claim was that &amp;nbsp;“DCF valuations always understate the value ofyoung, growth companies”. But is that true? Those of you who have been readingmy blog&amp;nbsp; and know that I valued Facebook,Skype and Linkedin earlier this summer (and found them all over valued) mayvery well conclude that I would find all social media companies to be over valuedright now. That may be true, but it cannot be generalized to DCF as atechnique. There is a bias that comes from the timing of these valuations: Ichose these companies to value because they were in the news and were eithergoing public or thinking about it. But when do companies in a sector thinkabout going public or offering themselves for sale? It is when managers believethey will receive a favorable valuation. Put differently, I am valuing social mediacompanies at a time when the market is most likely to be over valuing them. Toprovide some perspective, I valued dozens of dot com companies in the 1998,1999 and 2000 and I found every one of them to be over valued. In 2001 and2002, when I revisited the sector (or what was left of it), I found many of thesame companies to be under valued. In the graph below, for instance, I have myvalue and the market price for Amazon.com each year from 2000 to 2003; notice how over valued it was in early 2000 and how under valued it looks in 2001. Thebottom line: &lt;u&gt;DCF is not inherently conservative, but done right, it is contrarian.&lt;/u&gt; You are likely to find stocks to be under valued when the marketmood for a sector is darkest and stocks over valued when investors are enamoredabout a sector.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Bcz2atn7iO8/TrReOzaB4AI/AAAAAAAAAHY/fDXFO9Q539o/s1600/Amazonovertime.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="215" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Bcz2atn7iO8/TrReOzaB4AI/AAAAAAAAAHY/fDXFO9Q539o/s400/Amazonovertime.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 0in; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;b. DCF valuation missescomponents of value&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 0in; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;There is some truth in thisstatement and I did cover one aspect when I talked about the “option” premiumin some growth companies in my earlier post on the value of growth. What am Italking about? If I had valued Apple as a personal computer company in 2000, Iwould have missed its expansion into the entertainment business in the lastdecade. Similarly, if I had priced Google as a search engine in 2004, I wouldnot have considered its expansion into other businesses in the last few years.If Groupon is successful in its core business, could it expand into otherbusinesses? Sure, but there are two levels at which I would be skeptical in this case. First, I am not sure what Groupon competitive edge will be in these unspecified new businesses. Second, even when I have estimated a real option premium, I have never obtained an increase of more than 20-25% on my DCF value.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;The other argument is thatGroupon is issuing only 5% of its shares in the IPO and that the shares aretherefore scarce: investors who want the stock therefore have to pay a scarcitypremium. But shares in a company is not a Tiffany lamp or a Mickey Mantlebaseball card. It is a claim on a set of cash flows and who generates thesecash flows or how they are generated is not relevant. (As far as I can tell, adollar you generate in cash flows from your Groupon investment buys exactly thesame amount as a dollar in cash flows you generate from your Apple or Googleinvestment.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 0in; text-align: left; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;3.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;If you &amp;nbsp;believe that the value is only $14 or $15 a share (or lower), how do you explain the $28/share price?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;My first response is that I feel no urge to explain the $28/share price, since I did not pay it. My second is that this is a snarky response and that I should be able to put myself in the shoes of those who did buy the stock today and explain why. &amp;nbsp;I could take the generous view and attribute their actions to &amp;nbsp;more optimistic assumptions about growth/profitability (and a higher value). I think that there is a simpler, more likely explanation. I would wager than most of the investors buying Groupon stock today have absolutely no idea what its value is and could not care less. They are playing a very different game than I am. With a time horizon measured in minutes, hours and days, they are buying the stock today, hoping to flip it to someone else at a higher price next week. Will some of them make money? Sure, and I don't begrudge them their profits. It is just a game I am good at and I won't even try!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-left: 0.25in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 0in; text-align: left; text-indent: -0.25in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;4.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;Ifyou believe that the intrinsic value is only $10-$15, should you short thestock?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;In the &lt;a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Alt0SdORYnWadGpKOTA2RUVoUnVPU0JrSDVsRExwTGc#gid=0"&gt;Google shared spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt; that I put up in my lastpost, I notice that many of you, who found the stock to be over valued, plan tosell short the stock. You are far braver than I am! I did not sell short on anyof the dot com companies that I found over valued in 1999 and early 2000. In hindsight, could I have made money by doing so? Eventually, yes, but eventually would have been a long time coming on some of those stocks... My problem with selling short has always been that I don’t control my timehorizon; the person who has lent me the shares does. After all, even if youare right in your assessments of value, you will not make money until the marketcorrects its “mistakes” and that may take weeks, months or even years. With hot sectors, where prices are based on perceptionsand the herd is “optimistic”, I think it is far more prudent to get out of theway and let the momentum investors have their day in the sun. My day will come!!!!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-3918800117003309697?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/3918800117003309697/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=3918800117003309697' title='16 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3918800117003309697'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3918800117003309697'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/11/following-up-on-groupon.html' title='Following up on Groupon'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Z6rWo-2fsAY/TrRXPUUmtiI/AAAAAAAAAHA/AGKgjnbzDnk/s72-c/breakeven.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>16</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-4746033911835794213</id><published>2011-11-02T12:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-11-02T16:16:01.536-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Are you ready to value Groupon?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;After a series of missteps, it looks like the &lt;a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/11/01/groupon-ipo-holds-price-at-16-to-18-a-share/?KEYWORDS=groupon+ipo"&gt;Groupon valuation is ready to hit the market &lt;/a&gt;on Friday, with the final pricing to be done on Thursday. To bring you up to date on thisunfolding story, the initial talk during the summer was that the company wouldbe valued at $20 billion or more. In the months afterwards, loose talk from management of how &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/06/from-revenues-to-earnings-operating.html"&gt;customer acquisition costs were not operating expenses&lt;/a&gt; and what should be recorded asrevenues got in the way of the sales pitch. As management credibility crumbled,the value dropped by the week and it looks like the company will now go publicat an estimated value of about $12 billion, though only 5% of the shares willbe offered in the initial offering.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;As with the &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/05/valuing-young-growth-companies.html"&gt;Linkedin&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/05/is-skype-worth-85-billion-exercise-in.html"&gt;Skype&lt;/a&gt; valuations that I did earlierthis year, I thought it would be useful to do a valuation of Groupon. Before Iput my numbers down, though, let me emphasize that I don't have an inside trackon this valuation and that these are just my estimates. Rather than contestthem, I would suggest that you go into the &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/groupon.xls"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0000ef;"&gt;spreadsheet&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; that I have attached with thevaluation and make your own estimates.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Before I do the valuation, though, a little on Groupon’s businessmodel. Groupon works with any business (retail, restaurant,service) allowing it to sell products/services at a discount(usually 50% or higher). Thus, a restaurant that normally would charge $50 fora meal can offer a 50% discount to Groupon customers who would buy it at $25;Groupon and the business then split the $25. With a 50/50 split, Groupon's revenues would then be $12.50. (One of the controversies over the last few month was whether Groupon could claim revenues of $25 (the discounted price of the service) or $12.50 (its share)).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Valuation of Groupon business&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Current numbers&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;To get the current numbers, I started with the &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pdfiles/blog/grouponS1.pdf"&gt;S1 that Groupon filed with the SEC&lt;/a&gt; in October 2011. This filing has the numbers from2010 and for the first nine months of 2011 (as well as the first nine months of2010), which can be used to extract the trailing 12-month numbers for thecompany.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cXCSO-AFNVI/TrGW_TK58NI/AAAAAAAAAGg/F-6qhccFh9c/s1600/trailing12month.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="110" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cXCSO-AFNVI/TrGW_TK58NI/AAAAAAAAAGg/F-6qhccFh9c/s400/trailing12month.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Trailing 12 month = Last 10K - First 9 months, 2010 + First 9 months, 2011&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Revenue growth&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Rationale&lt;/u&gt;: This was a tough one! Groupon’s revenuesincreased from $312 million in 2010 to $1,290 million in 2011, an increase ofmore than 300%. That is going to be impossible to sustain but to make ajudgment on growth rates for the future, I had to estimate the potential market.The potential market is large since it encompasses “long term excess capacity”at almost any consumer-oriented businesses. It is worth noting that this excesscapacity is high right now, because of the poor state of the economy, but evenallowing for halving in excess capacity across the board, there is plenty ofroom to grow.&amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;My estimate&lt;/u&gt;: 50% compounded revenue growth for next 5years, declining to a stable growth rate of about 2% in year 10. Groupon’stotal revenues in year 10 will be about $25 billion.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Target operatingmargin and reinvestment&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Rationale&lt;/u&gt;: Groupon is losing money right now and itis doing so because its marketing and customer acquisition costs are huge.That, by itself, is to be expected, given their focus on increasing the numberof subscribers. To estimate what their margins will be, if they succeed withtheir business model, we have to estimate what these two expenses will looklike for a mature Groupon. I tried to estimate these numbers, using the verylimited information that is in the financial statements for the last two years.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7exon-DGvUE/TrGX-Unv17I/AAAAAAAAAGw/ydg808yDxWc/s1600/steadystatemargin.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="81" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7exon-DGvUE/TrGX-Unv17I/AAAAAAAAAGw/ydg808yDxWc/s400/steadystatemargin.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Since I am assuming high growth in revenues, I thought it prudent that the firm reinvest to generate this growth. I have estimated a dollar in capital invested in the business &lt;u&gt;will generate $2 in incremental revenues&lt;/u&gt;. Since the average subscriber in Groupon generates only $11.6 in revenues for the company, continued high growth will require substantial costs in acquiring new customers and holding on to existing ones.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;My estimate&lt;/u&gt;: The pre-tax operating margin willimprove gradually over time to 23% in year 10, with &lt;u&gt;operating margins stayingnegative through year 6&lt;/u&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;A legitimate argument against high margins is that this is a business where the competition is active and aggressive, both from established players like LivingSocial and Amazon but from new players. If you buy into this argument, you will use lower, more conservative margins.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Cost of capital&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Rationale&lt;/u&gt;: Groupon is a small, high growth, high riskbusiness right now. If my revenue growth and margin estimates come to fruition,though, it will become a larger, more profitable and more stable entity overthe next 10 years. As that happens, its cost of capital should change.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;My estimate&lt;/u&gt;: In the initial period, I assumed thatGroupon would continue to be all-equity funded and have a cost of equity offirms in the top decile in terms of risk. (With a beta of 2, a riskfree rate ofabout 2% and an equity risk premium of 6.5%, this works out to a cost ofcapital of 15%). In its mature state, I dropped this cost of capital to themarket-wide average in November 2011 of about 8%.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Steady State&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Rationale&lt;/u&gt;: At some point in time, Groupon’s growthdays will be behind it and it will be a mature company, growing at roughly thesame rate as the economy. When that happens, its risk profile and coststructure will resemble that of a mature company. I am also assuming, ratheroptimistically, that there is a 0% chance that the firm will collapse over thenext 10 years.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;My estimate&lt;/u&gt;: Groupon will become a mature company in10 years, growing at the same rate as the economy (2.05% in nominal terms). Itscost of capital will drop to 8%. Since it will have built up some significantcompetitive advantages at that point, I will assume that it can generate areturn on capital of 10% in perpetuity after year 10.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Overall valuation&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Based on these inputs for compounded revenue growth, target margin, reinvestment and cost of capital, the value that I obtain for the operating assets of the firm is $9.73 billion. Look at the valuation page on the Groupon spreadsheet for the numbers. It is worth noting that the present value of the expected cash flows over the next 10 years is -$5.4 billion. That reflects the expectation that the firm will need to raise fresh equity (and thus dilute your share of value) to fund it's cash flow needs over the next decade.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Valuation of Groupon equity per share&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Cash:&lt;/u&gt; The cash balance as of September 30, 2011, was$243.9 million. To this, I added the expected proceeds of $478.8 million from the IPO, since theproceeds will be kept in the firm to meeting working capital and investmentneeds. (If the founders had withdrawn the proceeds to cash out some of their ownership, I would not have done this.)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Debt&lt;/u&gt;: Groupon has no conventional interest bearingdebt but it does have some leases. Since the magnitude of these leases issmall (about $91 million, see page 76 of S1), I have ignored it in both my cost of capital computation and in thisstage of the valuation.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Equity options&lt;/u&gt;: Groupon has 18.4 million optionsoutstanding, with an average exercise price of $1.11 and an assumed maturity of5 years. Using the company-provided estimate of volatility of 44% and theexpected IPO price of $16 as the stock price, the option value was estimated tobe $275.53 million.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Value per share&lt;/u&gt;: The value per share can be computed now:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tmFD51SynYQ/TrGeGpY3ftI/AAAAAAAAAG4/WS_DWiSki9o/s1600/valuepershare.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="169" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tmFD51SynYQ/TrGeGpY3ftI/AAAAAAAAAG4/WS_DWiSki9o/s320/valuepershare.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;That is based on the presumption that all shares are equal (in voting rights). Since the shares that will be offered to the public are the lesser voting right shares, the value would have to be adjusted down to reflect that. My estimate would be that the class A shares are worth about $14/share and that the class B shares are worth about $15.50/share.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Bottom line&lt;/b&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;With my estimates for Groupon, the value per share that Iget is $14.62, not far off from the low end of the IPO range of $16-$18 pershare. Allowing for the difference in voting rights, I would lower the valueper share to less than $14. Given the high-ball estimates that we have seen onother social media companies that have gone public in the last few months, thiswould suggest one of the following:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;The market for social media companies is growing up andattaching more reasonable values for these companies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;The antics of Groupon management have hurt it in themarket’s eyes; this is the "mismanaged IPO discount" on value.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;The stock has been deliberately under pricedbecause only 5% of the shares are being offered in the IPO and the company (andits investment bankers) want to see it pop on day one.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;My guess is that it is a combination of all three factors. Groupon has to be credited with building an interesting business model that has a large potential market and is scaleable. &amp;nbsp;What makes this company interesting is that investing in it is indirectly a bet on the economy. Unlike most young growth companies that are dependent on the economy becoming stronger and more vibrant for higher value, Groupon's value is likely to be higher if the economy stays in the doldrums. After all, what business in a healthy economy wants to sell its products for 70% or 80% of list price?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Would I buy Groupon? No, and not just because it is over priced at $16 to $18 ... Having watched how the company's management has played games with investors for the last few months, I am unwilling to tango with them, especially since they have already telegraphed their unwillingness to accept input from me (by cutting my voting rights essentially to zero). But that is my choice. You can make your own estimates and judge for yourself...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Postscript:&lt;/b&gt; A few of you have already noted that I have been optimistic in my assumptions and you are absolutely right: high revenue growth, a healthy target margin, declining cost of capital and no chance of failure. My point is that even with those assumptions, I am falling short of the IPO price. Better still, I would like you to go in and make your own estimates in the Groupon spreadsheet and value the company. To keep tabs on all of our different estimates, I have created a &lt;a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Alt0SdORYnWadGpKOTA2RUVoUnVPU0JrSDVsRExwTGc"&gt;shared Google spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt; where you can input estimates and value per share. Should be fun!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-4746033911835794213?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/4746033911835794213/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=4746033911835794213' title='15 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/4746033911835794213'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/4746033911835794213'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/11/are-you-ready-to-value-groupon.html' title='Are you ready to value Groupon?'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cXCSO-AFNVI/TrGW_TK58NI/AAAAAAAAAGg/F-6qhccFh9c/s72-c/trailing12month.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>15</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-5945978596523307118</id><published>2011-10-28T10:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-28T10:15:44.333-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Growth (Part 4): Growth and Management Credibility</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;If you buy a growth company, the bulk of the value that you attach to the company comes from its growth assets. For these growth assets to be valuable, though, not only do you need high growth potential, but the company has to be able to scale up its growth while ensuring that it generates returns that exceed its cost of capital, while delivering this growth. That is tough to do, and it should come as no surprise that most young, growth companies do not make it through these tests.&amp;nbsp;Investors who are able to look at a large group of young, growth companies, and separate those that will survive from those that will not, will see immense payoffs. But can this be done? Those who are firmly in the value investing school argue that this is the impossible dream and that there is too much uncertainty in this process and too many variables that cannot be controlled for this strategy to work. However, if this were true, how do we explain the success of some venture capitalists and growth fund managers? Are they just lucky? I don't think so. In fact, these investors share a characteristic: they are excellent judges of management at companies, since so much of the value at young growth companies comes from trusting managers to make the right choices and to follow through. Here are some of the dimensions on which managers of young, growth companies should be judged:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Does the management have a vision for the future that is grounded in the product/service offered by the company?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As noted in part 1 of this series, the revenues of a young, growth company are bounded by the potential market for its products and services. A management that defines its business too narrowly is limiting its growth potential and by extension, its value. If a management defines its business to broadly, the vision becomes unrealistic and thus not credible. In a sense, management needs to have a vision that is both large and grounded in reality at the same time... Not easy to do, but why is that a surprise? If it were easy, we would all be founder/CEOs of our own businesses!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Is there an operating plan to bring this vision to fruition?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As businesses have found through the ages, a soaring vision and/or a great product is just the first step. Without the grunt work of operations (production, marketing and distribution), commercial success will remain elusive. Since relatively few visionaries have the patience or aptitude for the "nuts and bolts" of operations, this will require having the right people in place and the willingness to delegate power to these people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Is there clarity on the trade offs that the firm faces for the future?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is true that the founders of young, growth companies have to sell investors on their potential for success. Many founders, though, view this mission as requiring them to sounds relentlessly optimistic and highlighting only the positives. However, the most persuasive pitches are made by founders who are open about the trade offs involved in success and the risks they face, and are willing to outline how they plan to make their choices. Thus, a CEO who talks about growth potential without mentioning how much she needs to spend to deliver this growth (and how she plans to finance it) and/or the competition she will face is less credible than one that talks about growth and then goes on to discuss how the company plans to deliver this growth and what it will cost.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Is there flexibility built into the plan?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No matter how well thought out a concept may be, young, growth firms will be buffeted by unexpected occurrences, some bad and some good: that is the essence of risk. One key test of managers in young, growth companies is whether they have contingency plans for "bad" events. It may be mark of a brave soul to embark on a mission with no second thoughts or escape hatches, but for young businesses, that could be suicidal. Just as critical a test is how well managers &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/03/tide-in-affairs-of-men.html"&gt;have prepared for success&lt;/a&gt;, since success will bring with it different types of tests: new competitors, financing needs and staffing requirements. In fact, you will learn a great deal about a company, when you see it navigate through its first few crises and opportunities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Are managers willing to trust you (as investors) with news (especially bad news)?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When you invest in a young company, you know that the pathway to success is never &amp;nbsp;smooth. You recognize the risks involved and price the company accordingly. However, you do need managers of the company to keep you in their confidence, giving you both good news and bad news promptly and without shading the truth. A failure to do so only magnifies your risks. As a cynic, you may wonder why managers would ever do this. I would argue that it is in their own best interests, since so much of the value comes rests on their being credible. A &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204777904576652952632117630.html"&gt;growth company that burns its investors&lt;/a&gt; will face immense trouble getting them to believe again...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Are managers willing to trust you (as investors) with the power to challenge them?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I start with a simple presumption. If a company wants my money (as capital), it should give me a say (limited by share of the company) to how it is run. While most CEOs claim to be willing to listen to their stockholders, there is a much more tangible measure of whether they trust their own stockholders in the voting power that they grant them. In an earlier post, I noted the s&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/05/dual-share-structure-google-model.html"&gt;pread of the Google dual voting class model&lt;/a&gt; to other technology companies. This &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203911804576653591322367506.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection"&gt;graph from the Wall Street Journal&lt;/a&gt; is telling:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SvFs3-9kamQ/TqrdmNzMD-I/AAAAAAAAAGY/VSN56OySX1Y/s1600/voting+rights.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SvFs3-9kamQ/TqrdmNzMD-I/AAAAAAAAAGY/VSN56OySX1Y/s1600/voting+rights.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By giving the founders/insiders 150 voting rights per share, Groupon effectively is issuing common shares with no voting rights. They are telling me that they want my money but not my input on how the company is run. That is their prerogative but I will exercise mine and not play this one sided game.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you are interested in investing a young, growth company, pick up a filing for a prospective IPO or the annual report for a and review it. Make your best judgment on whether the management sounds credible, truthful and is worth trusting.. and also look for the clues on whether they trust you back. And keep updating your views, based on how the company responds to events.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Blog post series on growth&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-and-value-thoughts-on-google.html"&gt;Growth and Value: Thoughts on Google, Groupon and Green Mountain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-1-limits-of-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 1): The Limits of Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-2-scaling-up-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 2): Scaling up Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-3-value-of-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 3): The Value of Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-4-growth-and-management.html"&gt;Growth (Part 4): Growth and Management Credibility&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-5945978596523307118?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/5945978596523307118/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=5945978596523307118' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5945978596523307118'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5945978596523307118'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-4-growth-and-management.html' title='Growth (Part 4): Growth and Management Credibility'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SvFs3-9kamQ/TqrdmNzMD-I/AAAAAAAAAGY/VSN56OySX1Y/s72-c/voting+rights.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-5192955122490804571</id><published>2011-10-27T13:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-28T10:15:54.601-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Growth (Part 3): The Value of Growth</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Consider a firm that has $ 100 million invested in capital that generated $ 10 million in after-tax income in the most recent year. For this firm to generate more income next year, it has to do one of two things:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Manage its existing capital (assets) more efficiently&lt;/u&gt;: Thus, if the firm can cut its operating expenses and increase its income to $12 million next period, it will have a growth rate of 20% for the next period. Let's call this &lt;i&gt;efficiency growth&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Add to its capital base&lt;/u&gt;: If the firm can add another $ 10 million to its capital base and maintain its current return on capital (10%), its income next period will be $ 11 million, with a growth rate of 10% over the prior year. Let's call this &lt;i&gt;"new investment" growth&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;While both components feed into observed growth, they are not equal in their effect on value on two dimensions:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Time&lt;/u&gt;: A firm can cut costs and make itself more efficient over time but only to the extent that these inefficiencies exist. Thus, a firm that is badly managed may be able to generate efficiency growth for 3, 4 or maybe even 5 years, but not forever. New investment growth is called sustainable growth because it can be continued for as long as the firm can maintain its policy on reinvestment and the return it generates on its investment.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Value&lt;/u&gt;: Efficiency growth always creates value, since no investments are needed and earnings and cash flows will go up. &amp;nbsp;Whether new investment growth creates value revolves around whether the higher earnings created are justified by the additional investment that is required to generate them. Since it costs companies to raise capital (the cost of equity for equity and the cost of debt for borrowed money), the return generated on that capital has to exceed the cost of capital for growth to add value. In the example above, introducing a cost of capital of 10% into the analysis will make the new investment growth "worthless", since what is added in value through the higher growth &amp;nbsp;will be exactly offset by the higher reinvestment (and lower cash flows) needed to generate that growth. As an exercise, you can try entering different combinations of growth, return on capital and reinvestment and &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/valueofgrowth.xls"&gt;measure the value effect in this spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Looking at any company's past, you can draw conclusions about whether the growth registered in the past was valuable, neutral or value destroying, by comparing the return on capital generated on the growth investments to the cost of capital. The return on capital itself is computed based on operating income and the book value of capital invested:&lt;br /&gt;Return on capital = Operating income (1- tax rate)/ (Book value of equity + Book value of debt - Cash)&lt;br /&gt;This calculation is also in &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/valueofgrowth.xls"&gt;the spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt; referenced in the last paragraph. It is the only place in valuation/corporate finance, where we use book value and we do so because we are looking at the profits generated on what was originally invested in existing assets (rather than their updated market values). There are a host of dangers associated with trusting accounting numbers and I have written about them and what to do to compensate in a &lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1105499"&gt;paper on measuring returns.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, how well do publicly traded companies do in terms of delivering returns? Which sectors do the best?&amp;nbsp;To answer the first question, I computed the return on capital and cost of capital for all publicly traded companies listed globally in 2007 and 2008 and found the following:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-arFEMlsaLGI/Tqf84zECO5I/AAAAAAAAAGA/28ozbbmT8As/s1600/rocvscostofcapital.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="215" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-arFEMlsaLGI/Tqf84zECO5I/AAAAAAAAAGA/28ozbbmT8As/s400/rocvscostofcapital.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While the crisis in 2008 took at toll on returns, even in 2007, a good year for most companies globally, about a third of all companies in the US and a higher proportion elsewhere generated returns on capital that were less than the cost of capital. While you may quibble with the year and have issues with how I computed cost of capital and return on capital, I think you will agree that value destruction is far more common at companies than we would like to believe and that quality growth (that increases value) is rare.&amp;nbsp;To answer the second question, I compute returns on capital and cost of capital, by sector, for US companies and report them on my website at the start of every year. You can get the &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/sectorreturns.xls"&gt;most recent update&lt;/a&gt; (from the start of 2011) by clicking here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For those of you who do not want to go through the process of computing return on capital and cost of capital, I have a simpler proxy for measuring the quality of growth. Start by computing the capital invested thus:&lt;br /&gt;Capital invested = Book value of equity + Book value of debt - Cash&lt;br /&gt;Divide the change in operating income over the period by the change in capital invested over the period; the ratio is a measure of the the quality of the growth, with higher ratios representing higher quality. In the table below, I have computed the number for Google going back to 2003:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5gAYYMoqEY8/Tqm8JZuKNeI/AAAAAAAAAGM/IBny_wt2uyU/s1600/googlemarginalroc.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="77" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5gAYYMoqEY8/Tqm8JZuKNeI/AAAAAAAAAGM/IBny_wt2uyU/s400/googlemarginalroc.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the last column, I computed the marginal return on capital in that year by dividing the change in operating income that year by the change in capital. Based on this measure, in 2009 and 2010, Google saw a drop off in its quality of growth, a drop off I would attribute to acquisitions made by the company to keep its growth rate high. Its pre-tax marginal return has dropped to about 20%; in after-tax terms that would be closer to 13 or 14%, a good return on capital, but not a great one. &amp;nbsp;Investors have had wake up calls in Amazon and Netflix as well in recent days, as the costs of delivering growth have come to the surface. In most growth companies that disappoint, the clues are available in the years before.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Blog post series on growth&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-and-value-thoughts-on-google.html"&gt;Growth and Value: Thoughts on Google, Groupon and Green Mountain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-1-limits-of-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 1): The Limits of Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-2-scaling-up-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 2): Scaling up Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-3-value-of-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 3): The Value of Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-4-growth-and-management.html"&gt;Growth (Part 4): Growth and Management Credibility&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-5192955122490804571?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/5192955122490804571/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=5192955122490804571' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5192955122490804571'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5192955122490804571'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-3-value-of-growth.html' title='Growth (Part 3): The Value of Growth'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-arFEMlsaLGI/Tqf84zECO5I/AAAAAAAAAGA/28ozbbmT8As/s72-c/rocvscostofcapital.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-6588682065179884524</id><published>2011-10-26T10:47:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-28T10:16:02.211-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Growth (Part 2): Scaling up Growth</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;As companies get larger, it becomes more difficult to sustain high percentage growth rates in revenues for two reasons. The first is that the same percentage growth rate will require larger and larger absolute changes in revenues each period and thus will be more difficult to deliver. The second is that a company's success &amp;nbsp;will attract the attention of other firms; the resulting competition will act as a damper on growth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know! I know! You have your counter examples ready: Apple and Google come to mind. First, note that even these exemplars of success have seen growth rates decline over time. In fact, I posted Google's revenue growth (in dollar and percentage terms) in a &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-and-value-thoughts-on-google.html"&gt;prior post&lt;/a&gt; and while growth rates remain healthy, they have declined over the last decade. Second, the very fact that you can name these great growth companies is an indication that you are talking about the exceptions rather than the rule. Could the company you are looking at right now be the next exceptional company? Sure, but do you want to value your company to be the exception? I would not, since pricing your company for perfection will open you up to mostly negative surprises in the future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Metrick and Yasuda, in their &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Venture-Capital-Finance-Innovation-Metrick/dp/product-description/0470454709"&gt;book on venture capital&lt;/a&gt;, have a sobering study on the persistence (or lack thereof) of growth at high growth companies. They compared the revenue growth rates at companies at the time of their IPOs to the average for the sector to which they belong and then followed up by looking at these growth rates in subsequent years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CsDTj95tSPA/Tqf564zBy7I/AAAAAAAAAF4/tjofg1n25l0/s1600/IPOrevgrowth.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="252" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CsDTj95tSPA/Tqf564zBy7I/AAAAAAAAAF4/tjofg1n25l0/s400/IPOrevgrowth.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reading the graph, the revenue growth rate of the &amp;nbsp;"median" IPO company is 15% higher than the revenue growth rate of other companies in the sector one year after the IPO, drops to 8% two years after, to 5% three years after and to the sector growth rate 5 years after. Put succinctly, company-specific growth at the typical high growth company dissipates in about 4 to 5 years. Even the star IPOs (in the 75th percentile) see precipitous drops in the differential growth rate over the five year period.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Given this evidence that growth decelerates quickly at companies, how do we explain valuations where analysts use 50% compounded growth rates for 10 to 15 years or longer? I think the problem lies in the "percentage illusion", where analysts feel that their growth assumption is not changing if they keep the growth rate unchanged. However, delivering a 25% growth rate is far easier in year 1 than the same firm delivering a 25% growth rate in year 9. The best way to introduce some realism in growth rates is to convert the percentage growth rate in revenues into dollar changes in revenues and consider what the company will have to do in terms of operations to deliver that change. When valuing a retail company, for instance, computing that the company will have to open 300 new stores to deliver a 25% growth rate in year 10 (as opposed to 30 in year 1) may quickly lead to a reassessment of that growth rate. I have &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/growthscaler.xls"&gt;a very simple spreadsheet that does little more than this: convert percentage growth rates into revenue changes each period&lt;/a&gt;. As an exercise, take any young, growth company that you want to value, put in the current revenues and try different compounded revenue growth rates. The power of compounding continues to amaze me!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Blog post series on growth&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-and-value-thoughts-on-google.html"&gt;Growth and Value: Thoughts on Google, Groupon and Green Mountain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-1-limits-of-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 1): The Limits of Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-2-scaling-up-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 2): Scaling up Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-3-value-of-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 3): The Value of Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-4-growth-and-management.html"&gt;Growth (Part 4): Growth and Management Credibility&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-6588682065179884524?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/6588682065179884524/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=6588682065179884524' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/6588682065179884524'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/6588682065179884524'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-2-scaling-up-growth.html' title='Growth (Part 2): Scaling up Growth'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CsDTj95tSPA/Tqf564zBy7I/AAAAAAAAAF4/tjofg1n25l0/s72-c/IPOrevgrowth.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-8615272230081728201</id><published>2011-10-26T09:36:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-28T10:16:15.624-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Growth (Part 1): The Limits of Growth</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;When valuing young, growth companies, a key input into the valuation is the expected growth rate in revenues. For these companies to become valuable, small revenues have to become big revenues (and negative operating margins have to become positive ones...) and revenue growth is the driver of value. It is a tough number to estimate and it is easy to get carried away, especially in hot sectors. In this post, I will look at the information that can be used to put limits on this estimate, reasons why some companies may be able to blow through these limits and the disconnect that often emerges between company level estimates (made by analysts) and sector-wide estimates.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Limits on Growth&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's start with the fundamental question. When valuing an individual company with potential for growth, how high can the revenue growth rate be? Put differently, how big can dollar revenues become at a company, assuming that it is successful? As I noted in the Green Mountain Coffee discussion in my last post, there are at least two numbers that need to be used as sanity checks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;The first is the &lt;b&gt;overall size of the market &lt;/b&gt;for the product(s)/services that the company offers. Clearly, the expected revenues for Whole Foods, a company operating in a huge market (groceries) can become much larger than the expected revenues for Green Mountain Coffee, operating in a narrower market. (Whether it will or not remains a judgment call you have to make when valuing the company...)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The second are the &lt;b&gt;revenues of the largest players&lt;/b&gt; in that market. In effect, you are looking for the point at which revenues will plateau in a particular business. Thus, the fact that Folgers, the largest company in the coffee market, made only $2 billion in revenues in 2010 operated as a cautionary note in how much revenues you could project for Green Mountain Coffee. In contrast, Safeway,one of the largest grocery store companies, had revenues of $42 billion in 2010.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;If you are valuing a company in a sector that you are unfamiliar with, you should get a sense of the revenues generated by the entire sector and how much revenues the largest company or companies in the sector had. To help, I have put together a &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/revenuelimits.xls"&gt;spreadsheet that lists aggregate revenues, by business, for companies in the US, as well as the highest revenue company in each one&lt;/a&gt;. While my business categorization may be too broad for some of you, it should help provide some perspective on what comprises large revenues.&amp;nbsp;In making these estimates, though, you will have to exercise judgment, which can cause your "limits" to be different from mine (and your valuation to be higher or lower than mine). The first judgment is the potential market for the product or service provided by the company. While that may be easy for Green Mountain, what is the potential market it for Groupon or Google? In the case of Groupon, is it a slice of the retail business (which would be huge) or it is a smaller subset? In the case of Google, is it the online advertising market or the entire advertising market or is its something else altogether? The second is the market share that you see your company gaining, if it makes it through to mature firm status. In other words, &amp;nbsp;do you see your company becoming one of the largest companies in the business or remaining a smaller player?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Exceptions&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, for the follow up. Over history, a few companies have surprised us be growing beyond even the most optimistic assumptions. How did these legendary growth companies bust through the limits? I see three possible sources for these "positive" surprises:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Expand product/service offerings&lt;/u&gt;: A company can increase its potential market, by altering its product/service mix. Amazon.com, in its early days in the 1990s, was primarily an online book retailer. If it had stayed in that business, the potential market would have been small and Amazon's value would have been constrained. By remaking itself as an online retailer (of pretty much any product), Amazon expanded its potential market (and with it, its value).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Expand geographically&lt;/u&gt;: While most companies initially target domestic or local markets, the potential market can be increased by expanding geographically. The list of big name companies that have rediscovered growth by going global is long - Coca Cola, McDonald's and Procter and Gamble come to mind.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Expand product reach&lt;/u&gt;: In perhaps the most interesting scenario, a company can expand the potential market for a product or service through innovations. The secret for Apple's success in the last decade has not only been a stream of winning products - iPod, iPhone and iPad, but each product has expanded what were small markets (music players, smart phones, computer pads) into much larger ones.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;Can these surprises be incorporated into conventional valuation? By their very nature, I don't think they can, since they are unexpected at the point of initial analysis. (If you invested in Apple at the time of the iPod introduction, foreseeing the iPhone and iPad, you have a far better crystal ball than I do...) However, these "market expansion possibilities" can be viewed as options, where companies use existing platforms to generate new products and enter new markets, and can be valued as such. Even if you choose not go down the road of using option pricing models, these options will translate into a premium on conventional valuations, albeit one that cannot be easily quantified. You would expect this premium to be greatest in companies that have a proprietary edge (Apple, with its ownership of its operating system, is a perfect example...) and smallest when products can be imitated at low cost. As an investor, I tend not to include these "options to expand" premium in my initial valuations. If I can find a stock that is cheap relative to intrinsic value, the option premium is just icing on the cake.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;From micro to macro... It has to add up..&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One final note on growth limits. I believe that investors (and markets) generally get the macro story right but are not always consistent on the micro story. Put in revenue growth terms, optimistic investors are right that the social media businesses collectively will generate high revenues in the future. However, here is where I think that they make their mistake. First, if you add up the expected revenue numbers (that are implicit in the valuations you see for these companies) of the individual companies that comprise the social media space, the collective revenues will significantly exceed the forecasted revenues for the entire &amp;nbsp;market. In other words, your collective market share across companies will be well in excess of 100%. Second, I think that investors are under estimating the ease with which new companies can enter these businesses, under cutting margins and profitability. You can have a growing market where companies have trouble making money.&lt;br /&gt;In fact, the dot com boom provides an interesting historical perspective. In hindsight, investors clearly got the macro story right: that consumers would get more and more of their products/services online. It was in the valuation of the individual companies that they made their mistakes, over estimating growth at these companies and under estimating both the ease of entry/exit into the business and the effect of competition on profitability.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Blog post series on growth&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-and-value-thoughts-on-google.html"&gt;Growth and Value: Thoughts on Google, Groupon and Green Mountain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-1-limits-of-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 1): The Limits of Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-2-scaling-up-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 2): Scaling up Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-3-value-of-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 3): The Value of Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-4-growth-and-management.html"&gt;Growth (Part 4): Growth and Management Credibility&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-8615272230081728201?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/8615272230081728201/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=8615272230081728201' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8615272230081728201'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8615272230081728201'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-1-limits-of-growth.html' title='Growth (Part 1): The Limits of Growth'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-2032030701131389772</id><published>2011-10-18T17:00:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-10-28T10:14:46.948-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Growth and Value: Thoughts on Google, Groupon and Green Mountain</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;In the last week, I noticed three stories that at firstsight seem to be unrelated but I think share a common theme:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;The first was on Google, with the focus being on&lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704116404576263361958061834.html"&gt;how much Google is spending&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href="http://www.adweek.com/news/technology/google-stock-soars-gangbusters-growth-135776"&gt;impressive growth numbers&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;The second and &lt;a href="http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/10/17/the-missed-red-flags-on-groupon/"&gt;continuing story is on Groupon and it’s imminent or not so imminent IPO&lt;/a&gt;, with the emphasis being on theaccounting shenanigans and market whiplash.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;The third story is on Green Mountain Coffee, anincredible success story over the last five years, and the &lt;a href="http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/10/17/an-investor-creates-a-tempest-in-a-coffee-cup/?scp=1&amp;amp;sq=Green%20Mountain&amp;amp;st=cse"&gt;skepticism that some investors&lt;/a&gt; are showing about whether it can sustain its growth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="mso-list: l1 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;While the stories are on different issues, the questionsthey raise all revolve around the sustainability of growth at these companies,the price paid to generate the growth and the relationship between growth andvalue.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;The feasibility of growth&lt;/u&gt;: With growthcompanies, the debate about how high growth rates can be and how long growthcan be sustained falls along predictable lines. The optimists argue for highgrowth and the pessimists argue that this growth is not feasible and investorsare caught in the middle, wondering which side to believe. Ultimately, though, a company’s growthis constrained by the size of the market in which it operates. Green MountainCoffee, for instance, had revenues of $1.36 billion in 2010, a sizable market share of the processed coffee market. To provide a measure of what is feasible, the overall revenues from coffee sales at supermarkets, drugstores and retailers in the US in 2010 amounted to little more than $ 5 billion; &lt;a href="http://dancingmulecoffee.com/2011/06/is-your-specialty-coffee-really-special/"&gt;Folger's is the largest of the grocery store coffee producers has revenues of about $ 2 billion&lt;/a&gt;. While this total revenue does not count revenues from products like Keurig, it leads me to believe that Green Mountain Coffee is not a "small" company in this market. It is always possible that Green Mountain could expand its product line but what are its choices? Green Mountain maple syrup comes to mind, but that is a tiny market; Green Mountain chocolates may work, but the premium chocolate brands carry Swiss or Belgian imprimaturs. It is also possible that Green Mountain could increase the overall size of the market by convincing tea and soda drinkers to switch to gourmet coffees... but I think that is unlikely to happen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Scaling Growth&lt;/u&gt;: As companies get larger, their growth rates will decline. That is indisputable, though great growth companiesmay be able to slow the decline and extend it over longer periods. Google, forinstance, has been more successful than most growth companies in the last decade in sustaining high growth for anextended period, but even it has found that it is far more difficult to post high growth rates in revenues as its gets bigger. In the figure below, I graph out the percentage change in revenues and the dollar change in revenues each year at Google from 2001-2010. While the $ change in revenues has increased over time, the percentage change in revenues has decreased every year (except 2009). And consider this: Google is one of the most successful growth companies of the last decade&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit; font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rdWQq5MN5zM/Tp4Nx41pygI/AAAAAAAAAFM/2JXdJe_qkRI/s1600/googlegrowth.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="271" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rdWQq5MN5zM/Tp4Nx41pygI/AAAAAAAAAFM/2JXdJe_qkRI/s400/googlegrowth.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Growth and Value&lt;/u&gt;: While many analysts viewhigher growth as good for value, it is clearly not that simple. After all,going for higher growth requires companies to make a trade off. On the oneside, there is the good stuff: higher growth boosts revenues and earnings. Onthe other side, there is the bad stuff: growth is not free. Companies have toinvest to generate sustainable growth: those investments can be in long term assets(factories if you are a manufacturing firm, R&amp;amp;D if you are a technology ora pharmaceutical firm, recruiting &amp;amp; training if you are a consulting firm),short term assets (inventory or accounts receivable) or acquisitions of othercompanies. All of these investments reduce cash flows. The net effect can therefore be positive or negative and is captured by looking at whether the firm generates a return on its investments(return on invested capital or return on equity) that exceeds its cost offunding (cost of capital or cost of equity). In the case of Google, the priceof growth has risen over time, as the company seems to be caught in a cycle ofmaking acquisitions that get larger each year, to post the samegrowth rates. With Groupon, this debate has morphed into an accounting question.Even if we accept the company’s argument that customer acquisition costs shouldbe capitalized (see my earlier post on the issue), the question that follows isa simple one. How much value is added by a new customer? (To answer thisquestion, the company will have to provide more information on customerbehavior.) More critically, is it becoming less positive over time as thecompany gets bigger and goes after more elusive customers, in the face of&amp;nbsp; increased competition from Amazon andLivingSocial? Unfortunately, the firm is providing little information on these key questions.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: small; font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;Growth and Credibility&lt;/u&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"&gt;: My favorite frameworkfor thinking about businesses is a financial balance&amp;nbsp;sheet.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DSLKiTLUObY/Tp4Q63IiqHI/AAAAAAAAAFs/tPEzYTIKDYs/s1600/Untitled.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="126" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DSLKiTLUObY/Tp4Q63IiqHI/AAAAAAAAAFs/tPEzYTIKDYs/s320/Untitled.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;span id="goog_32229331"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span id="goog_32229332"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Within this framework, here is the keydifference between mature and growth companies. The former derive most of theirvalue from assets in place, whereas the latter get the bulk of their value fromgrowth assets. Since the value of growth assets rests entirely on perceptionsand expectations about the future, it also rides on the credibility ofmanagement. In other words, you need to believe managers when they tell you their plans for the future and you expect them to be disciplined in following through. If managers are not credible and disciplined, the value of growth assets can veryquickly melt away. That is the lesson that Groupon and its investment bankersdo not seem to get. As a potential investor in Groupon, I am not valuing itbased on how much money it made or lost last year but on my expectations aboutits future. All the accounting moves made by Groupon over the last year seem tobe centered around making their numbers (revenues, earnings etc.) from lastyear look better. Even if they succeed in this endeavor, all they will do withthese actions is change the value of their existing assets marginally. In theprocess, though, they have damaged the trust that investors have in them and putthe value of their growth assets at risk. When 90% or more of your value comes fromgrowth assets, that is just dumb.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: inherit;"&gt;Each of these issues deserves a full post and I will make a series of posts in the next few days on each one. In the meantime, these companies will continue to entertain us for the next few months. Let's face it! Growth companies are a lot more fun to assess than mature companies.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Blog post series on growth&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-and-value-thoughts-on-google.html"&gt;Growth and Value: Thoughts on Google, Groupon and Green Mountain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-1-limits-of-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 1): The Limits of Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-2-scaling-up-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 2): Scaling up Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-3-value-of-growth.html"&gt;Growth (Part 3): The Value of Growth&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-part-4-growth-and-management.html"&gt;Growth (Part 4): Growth and Management Credibility&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2; text-indent: -.25in;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-2032030701131389772?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/2032030701131389772/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=2032030701131389772' title='12 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2032030701131389772'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2032030701131389772'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/10/growth-and-value-thoughts-on-google.html' title='Growth and Value: Thoughts on Google, Groupon and Green Mountain'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rdWQq5MN5zM/Tp4Nx41pygI/AAAAAAAAAFM/2JXdJe_qkRI/s72-c/googlegrowth.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-6798027776564909963</id><published>2011-09-30T15:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-30T18:21:41.446-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Risk free rates and value: Dealing with historically low risk free rates</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Last week, the 10-year US treasury bond rate dropped to 1.75%. While it has risen since to about 2%, there can be no denying a &amp;nbsp;basic fact. Government bond rates have dropped in almost all of the developed market currencies: the Euro, the British Pound, the Swiss Franc and the Yen. Since government bond rates are used as risk free rates to estimate discount rates in valuation or hurdle rates in corporate finance, there has been&amp;nbsp;a great deal of hand wringing and angst among valuation practitioners on the consequences. In fact, if you allow for the increase in sovereign risk across the globe, you could argue that the "true" risk free rates are even lower than the already low government bond rates. &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/07/sovereign-ratings-downgrade-for-us-end.html"&gt;In my previous post on the sovereign rating downgrade for the US&lt;/a&gt;, I noted that the default spread would have to be netted out against the government bond rate to get to the risk free rate. If, for instance, you accepted the S&amp;amp;P rating of AA+ for the US and estimated a default spread of 0.20% for that rating, the US dollar risk free rate right now would be about 1.80% (2% minus 0.20%).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what effect do lower risk free rates have on value? The answer, if you follow conventional valuation practice, seems obvious. Lower risk free rates, holding all else constant, result in lower discount rates, and lower discount rates, all else held the same, will result in higher value. In fact, this seems to be the implicit message in the Fed's Operation Twist 2: that lower risk free rates are good for the economy and markets. It is also this facile conclusion that makes some practitioners uncomfortable with using today's rates in valuations; the angst gets deeper when the practitioner in question wants a "low" value for an asset (for tax assessments or to tilt the scales in a legal tussle). It is not surprising then that these practitioners flirt with an alternative: why not use "normalized" risk free rates instead of today's "abnormally" low risk free rates? The normalized risk free rates are generally computed by looking at the past: thus, the average 10-year treasury bond rate over the last 30 years, which is closer to 4%, is suggested as an option. Alluring though this option seems, not only is it the wrong solution to the perceived problem (of low risk free rates and out of control valuations), there may be no problem to solve in the first place. And here is why..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.&lt;u&gt; The risk free rate is not just a number in a discount rate computation but an opportunity cost.&lt;/u&gt; One way to think about the risk free rate is that it is the rate you will earn if you choose not to take the risky investments that are out there (stocks, corporate bonds, real estate, a business venture). So, let's carry this to its logical extreme. Let's assume that you do replace today's risk free rate (2% or lower) with your normalized rate (4%) and that the resulting high discount rate gives you a low value for your risky asset. Let's then assume that you choose not to invest in that risky asset. Where do you plan to invest that money instead? In your normalized bond earning 4%? Since it exists only on your spreadsheet, I am afraid that you will have to settle for that "abnormally" low 2% interest rate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. &lt;u&gt;The risk free rate is a reflection of what people expect in the overall economy for the foreseeable future.&lt;/u&gt; Harking back to an equation that I have used before, note that the risk free rate is the sum of two market expectations: an expectation of inflation for the future and an expectation of real growth.&lt;br /&gt;Risk free rate = Expected inflation + Expected real growth&lt;br /&gt;Viewed through these lens, it is quite clear that a very low risk free rate is not generally compatible with a vibrant high growth economy. In fact, the biggest factor driving down ten-year bond rates this year from 3.29% to 2% has been the increasing pessimism about global economic health, pushing down both expected real growth and expected inflation. That is the basis for my argument that the Fed has become a side player in this game and that its push for lower risk free rates is actually at odds with its desire that the US return to healthy economic growth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. &lt;u&gt;The risk free asset is also where investors flee when the fear factor rises, the much vaunted "flight to safety" during crises.&lt;/u&gt; But this flight does not just affect the risk free rate.... It affects risk premiums for all risky asset classes: equity risk premiums rise, default spreads on corporate bonds widen and cap rates on real estate become higher. If you define the expected return from stocks as the sum of the risk free rate and the equity risk premium, the last decade has seen changes in that composition:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YEDyKOzwrVE/ToWzgLfFNSI/AAAAAAAAAFI/nh0DZIUgFEc/s1600/riskfreelow.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="271" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YEDyKOzwrVE/ToWzgLfFNSI/AAAAAAAAAFI/nh0DZIUgFEc/s400/riskfreelow.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note that while the overall expected return on stocks (backed out from level of the S&amp;amp;P 500 index and expected cash flows from stocks) has been in a fairly tight range (8%-9%), the proportions coming from the risk free rate and equity risk premium have changed. And there are consequences for value as well. To see why assume that you are valuing a &amp;nbsp;mature, average risk company (growing at the same rate as the economy) with $ 100 million in cash flows to equity currently in a market where the risk free rate is 4% and the equity risk premium is also 4% (thus creating a cost of equity of 8%). Since the risk free rate is the proxy for nominal growth in the economy, this company's value is:&lt;br /&gt;Value of company = 100 (1.04) / (.08-.04) = $2,600 million&lt;br /&gt;Now consider valuing the same company when the risk free rate is 2% and the equity risk premium is 6%. Since the nominal growth rate expectation is down to 2%, the value of the company is:&lt;br /&gt;Value of company = 100 (1.02)/ (.08 - .02) = $1,700 million&lt;br /&gt;The effect on value will be greater for higher risk companies, where the risk premium is magnified, and lower for lower risk companies, but it will be significant across the board. Note that the first scenario resembles the market numbers in 2007 whereas the second is close to where we are today. The shift in risk free rates/ risk premiums may explain why stocks look cheap today, relative to historic metrics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do we do about low risk free rates? As I see it, you can choose one of four routes, ranging from dysfunctional to dynamic:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;1. The dysfunctional valuation:&lt;/u&gt;&amp;nbsp;You leave risk free rates at today's low levels, while your risk premiums and growth rates come from happier, more stable times. Implicitly, this is exactly what you will do, if you use equity risk premiums from historical data (Ibbotson, for instance) and earnings growth rates that reflect the "good old days". Using the example above, you would value the average risk, mature company, using a 2% risk free rate, a 4% nominal growth rate and a 4% equity risk premium:&lt;br /&gt;Value of company &amp;nbsp;= 100 (1.04)/ (.06-.04) = $5,200 million&lt;br /&gt;You will find everything you look at to be dramatically under valued, but the model is internally inconsistent. In effect, though, you are combining a crisis risk free rate with a good times risk premium/growth rate to estimate too high a value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;2. The depressed valuation&lt;/u&gt;: You could replace the risk free rate today with a higher, normalized risk free rate, while using the higher risk premiums and growth rates that characterize crisis marks. Thus, in the valuation example, you would be using a 4% risk free rate in conjunction with a 2% nominal growth rate and a 6% equity risk premium, leading unsurprisingly to a low value:&lt;br /&gt;Value of company = 100 (1.02) / (.10 - .02) = $1,275 million&lt;br /&gt;Here, the inconsistency is that you have combined a good times risk free rate with a crisis risk premium/growth rate to estimate too low a value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;3. The denial valuation&lt;/u&gt;:You could be a normalizer, replacing current numbers with normal numbers, not just on the risk free rate but on the other inputs (equity risk premiums, cash flows, growth rates) as well. This faith in mean reversion leaves the intrinsic value of the hypothetical company stuck at $2,600 million, as risk free rates and risk premiums change, and views the crisis as "nightmare" that will soon be forgotten. Unlike the first two choices, this one is internally consistent and may, in fact, be the valuation that is used by a classic contrarian investor, who believes that markets over react and adjust back to norms over time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;4. The dynamic valuation&lt;/u&gt;: You could use today's combination of a low risk free rate, high risk premium and low nominal growth to estimate a value of $1,700 million for the company. The valuation is internally consistent but the downside is that it will be volatile and change as the macro environment changes, creating discomfort for those who believe that intrinsic value is a stable number that stays unchanged over time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would steer away from the internally inconsistent valuations, either dysfunctional (giving you too high a number) or depressed (giving you too low a number) because your inputs are at war with each other. As for denial and dynamic valuations, I prefer dynamic valuations because I am not sanguine that reversion back to historic norms will happen soon. I can see why long term, value investors may be attracted to denial valuations but they better have a road map to their alternate pre-crisis universe, or the valuations will not come to fruition. But the bottom line about risk free rates is worth repeating. Lower risk free rates do not always translate into higher values for risky assets and it is not necessarily a "problem" that needs to be solved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-6798027776564909963?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/6798027776564909963/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=6798027776564909963' title='25 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/6798027776564909963'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/6798027776564909963'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/09/risk-free-rates-and-value-dealing-with.html' title='Risk free rates and value: Dealing with historically low risk free rates'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-YEDyKOzwrVE/ToWzgLfFNSI/AAAAAAAAAFI/nh0DZIUgFEc/s72-c/riskfreelow.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>25</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-9158466753068855058</id><published>2011-09-23T05:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-23T15:09:41.475-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Ruminations on Rogue Trading</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;We are in the midst of a "rogue trading" scandal and the media loves it. It started with this &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904060604576572214077312174.html"&gt;report&lt;/a&gt; in the Wall Street Journal about an unnamed trader who had lost $ 2 billion for the Swiss banking giant, UBS. The trader was &lt;a href="http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/09/15/ubs-reports-2-billion-loss-to-rogue-trader/"&gt;quickly identified and named &lt;/a&gt;as Kewku Abodoli, a director at the UBS Delta One desk (more on that later). &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903703604576586391495813716.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection"&gt;Today's story&lt;/a&gt; has more details, with a comment from Abodoli's lawyer about how much he regrets his actions (or at least getting caught). If you have a sense of deja vu, it is because you have seen this story play out before. Just to refresh your memory, here are some &lt;a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2011/BUSINESS/09/15/unauthorized.trades/index.html"&gt;memorable rogue traders&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;from times past, with one being famous enough (Nick Leeson) that he &lt;a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0131566/"&gt;had a movie&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(and not a very good one)&amp;nbsp;made about him.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;What is rogue trading?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;Rogue trading is trading by an individual, that violates his or her employer's norms and rules on investing and risk taking, exposing the entity to catastrophic risk.&lt;/u&gt; Note that rogue trading does not require "losses" to qualify. A rogue trader can take "catastrophic risks" and make millions or lose millions. Only the latter join the gallery of rogue traders, tarred and feathered by the media, and forced to do the &lt;a href="http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/16/7800333-alleged-ubs-rogue-trader-charged-with-fraud"&gt;perp walk&lt;/a&gt;. What about the rogue traders who make money? They are richly rewarded, celebrated as master traders and generally leave to start their own hedge funds. Enough said!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Why is there rogue trading?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;So, why is there rogue trading? The answers are surprisingly simple and universal:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Trading is addictive:&lt;/u&gt; Anyone who has traded knows that the process can be addictive, where trades lead to more trades, and at least for some people, there is no stopping the trading.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;The search for the "big" payoff&lt;/u&gt;: It is human nature to aspire for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, the mega million dollar prize on the lottery and the trifecta &amp;nbsp;at the race track. In trading, that big payoff is (or at least seems) closer than in any other profession and many rogue traders start down their chosen path hoping to make the "big trade"...&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;House money and Breakeven effects&lt;/u&gt;: In an &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2010/10/jerome-kerviel-is-sentenced-ruminations.html"&gt;earlier post on Jerome Kerviel&lt;/a&gt;, I noted that two well documented tendencies in behavioral finance: the tendency to take &lt;u&gt;more risk than you should with other people's or house money&lt;/u&gt; and the proclivity to reckless risk taking, once you start losing money, &lt;u&gt;to get back to break even&lt;/u&gt;. As you look across the rogue trading episodes, they all share this characteristic. These traders all started with small losses, which they tried to recover from with bigger bets, and the process kept escalating until you get to hundreds of millions of dollars.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;How do rogue traders generate these losses and how do they get away with it?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;When we read about the magnitude of the losses that are generated by rogue traders, we are faced with two questions: How do you lose hundreds of millions of dollars? How is it possible to do so undetected?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's start with the first question. For a trader to lose hundreds of millions, he or she has to "lever" up and there are at least three ways this can be accomplished:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Buy on borrowed money&lt;/u&gt;: You can borrow immense amounts of money on a small capital base, especially if you work at a large bank, and invest the amount in risky assets. You increase the upside on your equity investment, if you are right, but you magnify the downside, if you are wrong.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Derivatives&lt;/u&gt;: You can make bets on derivatives that have potentially unlimited losses: this is the case when you buy or sell a futures contract on a commodity or a currency or when you sell options (either calls or puts).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Long-short strategies&lt;/u&gt;: You can sell short on some risky assets, collect the proceeds and buy other risky assets, i.e., the hedge fund strategy. If the asset prices move in the right direction (your short sold assets have to drop in value while your long assets have to increase in value), you can make dramatic returns on small investments. However, if asset prices move in the wrong direction, your losses can be many times your equity investment.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;Coming back to Kewku Abodoli, the rogue trader of the moment, it is worth noting that he traded on the "Delta One" desk. On the surface, Delta One desks are relatively placid and profitable places, where traders trade derivatives and exchange traded funds (ETFs) to take advantage of movements in the underlying assets (the delta in the desk name references the option delta, i.e., the percentage change in the option value for a unit change in the stock price). However, access to derivatives and ETFs can be a double edged sword, allowing a rogue trader to take very large risk exposures.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;As for how rogue traders evade being caught, there are at least three possible explanations:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Time lags in risk measurement/management systems&lt;/u&gt;: Given how quickly prices move in financial markets, there can be time lags in marking investments to market and learning about risk exposures. These problems are exacerbated with ETFs, since they are themselves often portfolios of traded assets which have to be marked to market.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Systematic measurement error in risk management systems&lt;/u&gt;: All risk management systems are based upon risk measures that are estimates. Thus, Value at Risk (VAR), a widely used risk measure at banks, has measurement error on many of its inputs, and some of these errors are systematic. For instance, a VAR that is based upon the assumption that asset prices move in a normal distribution will understate the risks of assets whose prices are discontinuous and tend to jump. Traders that learn about these systematic errors can then exploit them to hide real risks in their portfolios.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Avoidance and Denial&lt;/u&gt;: It is possible that those who monitor the rogue trader get a sense that something is wrong much earlier than the final denouement. However, in a very human response, the first response is to deny that a problem exists and avoid it, until it blows up.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;How can you stop rogue trading?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;So, how can you stop the next rogue trader from bringing an institution down? As an institution, you can reduce the chance that you will be the next victim by doing the following:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Hire the right traders&lt;/u&gt;: In my post on Jerome Kerviel, I pointed to the folly of entrusting trading to young men, a group that tends to take bigger and more reckless risks than any other subgroup of the population. I also suggested, only half in jest, that investment banks hire a few traders' mothers to trade alongside the traders, since older women are the perfect counterweight to young men in risk taking. I am sure that Mr. Abodoli would have been more cautious in his risk taking, if his mother had been sitting at the next desk.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Real time and dynamic risk measurement systems&lt;/u&gt;: Risk management systems should track prices in real time and capture bad risk exposures early.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Restrict trading in illiquid assets&lt;/u&gt;: Even the most sophisticated risk management investments have trouble dealing with assets that are illiquid, where the prices are appraised values and not transaction values. As investing choices widen from traded stocks and corporate bonds to ETFs, derivatives and mortgage backed securities, risk management systems have come under more strain.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Simple and focused risk management systems&lt;/u&gt;: Since inputs into risk measurement and management systems have systematic measurement error that traders exploit, simpler risk management systems that have fewer bells and whistles are more difficult to game. In addition, investment banks can borrow a technique that El Al, the Israeli airline, has used for years to keep terrorists off their planes. Rather than spreading their resources wide and check every passenger, they profile passengers and focus on those most likely to create problems. Banks can adopt a similar practice: rather than have risk management systems that track every trade in the bank, they can identify those areas, where rules are most likely to be broken and focus attention on them.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Stress testing&lt;/u&gt;: Every risk management system will fail. It is a question of when, not whether. The key to good risk management is how you respond to failures in the system, not successes. Rather than assume that everyone is playing by the rules and measuring the consequences, it makes more sense to assume that some will not play by the rules and prepare for the consequences.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Look at outcome and process, not just outcome&lt;/u&gt;: I started this post by noting that rogue traders who make millions are feted and celebrated. As long as we continue to do that, we will incite traders to take unconscionable risks. The best way to bring home the point that you will not put up with rogue trading is to fire a rogue trader who makes millions and to deny him his bonus.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;Here is the bottom line. The breast beating that happens after every rogue trading episode will subside. Banks will revamp their risk management systems and tell you that these new systems are now rogue-trader proof. I am a cynic, and I am sure that a few months or years from now, no matter what is done now, there will be another rogue trader at another bank. Consequently, I think it behooves all of us to be proactive about rogue trading:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Top managers at banks&lt;/u&gt;: The six suggestions that I have above are all directed at management, but they will reduce, not eliminate, the likelihood of rogue trading. Top managers at banks have to consider rogue trading to be one of the risks that comes with proprietary trading. When allocating capital to different businesses (corporate banking, investment banking, proprietary trading) should incorporate this risk. (Proprietary trading will have to make a higher return on the equity invested in it to break even than commercial banking...)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Investors in these banks&lt;/u&gt;: By the same token, investors in banks have to be cognizant of the risks that come with proprietary trading. A bank that generates a higher proportion of its profits from proprietary trading is riskier, other things held equal, than a bank that generates its revenues from traditional banking. If these banks trade at the same multiple of earnings, I would pick the latter over the former. In practical terms, I am suggesting that when screening for bargains among banks, we look at the percentage of profits from proprietary trading as a risk measure.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Regulatory authorities&lt;/u&gt;: If rogue trading is part and parcel of proprietary trading, then it follows that institutions where the government provides a backstop should not be allowed to indulge in it. This is the basis for the &lt;a href="http://www.skadden.com/newsletters/FSR_The_Volcker_Rule.pdf"&gt;Volcker rule&lt;/a&gt; in the US and the &lt;a href="http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/34722f64-06de-11df-b058-00144feabdc0.html"&gt;new banking rules that are being discussed in the UK&lt;/a&gt;, both of which would bar commercial banks from proprietary trading. I agree.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-9158466753068855058?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/9158466753068855058/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=9158466753068855058' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/9158466753068855058'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/9158466753068855058'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/09/ruminations-on-rogue-trading.html' title='Ruminations on Rogue Trading'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-2105149281890348837</id><published>2011-09-22T06:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-22T07:24:44.614-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Buffett Plan: An apt name for a sanctimonious, hypocritical and superficial proposal</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;At the start of this week, President Obama laid the groundwork for his deficit plan, with &lt;a href="http://articles.cnn.com/2011-09-18/politics/obama.buffett.tax_1_obama-proposal-tax-code-capital-gains-tax?_s=PM:POLITICS"&gt;one of the proposals&lt;/a&gt; being what he termed the "Buffett" tax. Like &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/08/buffett-and-bank-of-america-poker-and.html"&gt;Bank of America&lt;/a&gt;, a few weeks prior, he was perhaps hoping to borrow on Buffett's credibility to increase support for his plan. Put briefly, here is the what the plan is designed to do. Taxpayers who earn more than a million dollars will be required to pay at least as high a tax rate as what the average tax payer pays. What &amp;nbsp;constitutes a average taxpayer (I guess it is a good thing that it is not the median taxpayer; since that would comprise an income tax cut for millionaires, not a tax increase) and how high this "alternative" tax rate should be has been left to Congress to specify.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This plan has the right moniker, since it's qualities are reflective of the man after whom it is named:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;It is sanctimonious&lt;/u&gt;: The word that best comes to my mind as I read Buffett's views on investing and business is "sanctimonious". He is the &lt;i&gt;noble CEO&lt;/i&gt;, who puts stockholders' interests first, in a world full of cynical, self interested CEOs. He is the &lt;i&gt;keeper of the value investing flame&lt;/i&gt;, while those short-term money managers in New York and London have abandoned Ben Graham, fundamentals and first principles. He is the &lt;i&gt;brilliant financial thinker&lt;/i&gt;, standing alone against those clueless academics and their betas &amp;amp; option pricing models. In his latest foray, he is the &lt;i&gt;"good" billionaire&lt;/i&gt;, who wants to pay his fair share of taxes, unlike those bad ones who shirk paying their share. This tax plan echoes this refrain. In effect, it says, the details don't matter because the intentions are noble: the rich can not only afford to pay more in taxes but they should be happy to do so.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;It is hypocritical&lt;/u&gt;: All this sanctimony might be tolerable if it came from someone who not only talks the talk but walks the walk. Warren Buffett is a hypocrite on many of the issues that he is most vocal on. Consider corporate governance. The same man who said that managers are stewards of their shareholder capital has not always followed his lead, in structuring and running his own company. First, Berkshire Hathaway has adopted the dual-voting share plan that has been the weapon of choice for entrenched insider control in other companies (See New York Times, News Corp, Google, Washington Post... ). Second, while I admire Buffett's frugality, I don't see any transparency at Berkshire Hathaway. In fact, it looks to me like the board at the company exists to rubber stamp whatever Buffett and Munger want. &amp;nbsp;A case in point: look at the successors that have been hired to take Buffett's place:&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44484785/ns/business-us_business/"&gt;Ted Wechsler&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(his recent hire) and&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://money.cnn.com/2010/10/25/news/todd_combs_berkshire.fortune/index.htm"&gt;Todd Combs&lt;/a&gt;. Both seem like nice men with, but we know little about them (other than the fact that Buffett and Munger like them). One of the few data points we have on Wechsler is that&amp;nbsp;he was the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2011/09/12/ted-weschler-buffett-berkshire-hire/"&gt;winning bidder&lt;/a&gt;, two years in a row, paying $2.6 million each year, in an auction where the prize was lunch with the Oracle from Omaha. If you see nothing wrong with that, you should be okay with Bob Iger picking his successor for Disney from a Mickey Mouse look-alike contest or Steve Ballmer choosing the next winner of the hot dog eating contest at Coney Island (Was that Joey Chestnut?) as the CEO for Microsoft. Third, for those who argue&amp;nbsp;that Buffett can be trusted to make these judgments, &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703712504576234973423630778.html"&gt;I do remember that he did hand-pick his last successor and that did not end well&lt;/a&gt;, did it?&amp;nbsp;No one is impervious from making mistakes, but people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px;"&gt;This tax proposal is just as hypocritical. While it is couched in terms of fairness, it is based on a false argument: that millionaires pay less in taxes because they exploit massive tax loopholes and have very good tax lawyers. While there may be some who do, we know why the effective tax rate for millionaires is so low. It is &lt;a href="http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2007/06/mr-buffetts-tax-bill.html"&gt;because a significant portion of the income comes from capital gains and dividends&lt;/a&gt;, which are paid out by corporations from after-tax income, and taxed at a lower rate than ordinary income (from wages and profits). I would have had much more respect for the proposal if it had directly confronted this issue. Should investment income be taxed at a lower rate? Should we be taxing consumption or income? That would be a debate worth having.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;It is superficial&lt;/u&gt;: To be honest, there is really no tax proposal, because the key details of the proposal, the "average" tax payer and the "millionaire minimum tax rate" are not specified. That is very much in keeping with the Buffett rule book. I know that much has been made about the brilliance and home-spun wisdom of Buffett's aphorisms. But as I read the &lt;a href="http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/letters.html"&gt;letters that he has written to his stockholders &lt;/a&gt;(which comprise the heart of his writing), I am left with the feeling that when Buffett wanders from his preferred habitat - talking about investing in and managing mature companies - there is less there than meets the eye, especially when it relates to macro and market issues. What seems profound and wise at the first reading seems less so with each subsequent reading. Put differently, when it comes to a great deal of investing wisdom, Buffett's sayings seem to draw more on the fortune cookie tradition than from Confucius.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;As far as this tax proposal goes,&amp;nbsp;it looks like it was conceived by a union of a rogue economist and an over-the-top populist. (Perhaps, it was.. Has anyone seen Robert Reich and Paul Begala hanging out together?) It will, without a doubt, make the tax code more complex. As a taxpayer who has had to deal with the effect of capped itemized deductions and the alternative minimum tax rate (AMT) for the last decade, I think that they rank among the worst tax code abominations ever, and this proposal is more of the same, just directed at millionaires. It will also be ineffective. The administration estimates that it will raise $ 400 billion in tax revenues from the Buffett tax, which strikes me as unlikely. First, since the "millionaire tax rate" is unspecified, the fact that they can estimate revenues from it reveals exceptional brilliance. Second, since much of the income that will be taxed comes from dividends/price appreciation in the stock market, it would require a rising market and healthy economy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;Am I being unfair in using a tax proposal named after Buffett to attack the man? Perhaps, but this tax proposal has its roots in Buffett's assertion that the rich don't pay enough in taxes and I am sure that the administration got his permission to attach his name to it. To those Buffett acolytes who are upset at my critique of the master, I have a simple suggestion. There are plenty of people, websites and books that revere the man and write puff pieces about him. Why not stick with those? Warren Buffett is a savvy investor, who has an uncanny ability to spot weakness and take advantage of it. I admire his skill but that does not mean that I have to treat him as infallible or exalt everything that has his name attached to it as good. &lt;strike&gt;My view is that the "Oracle from Omaha" no longer fits and that we need to come up with something better. I like the "Nag from Nebraska", the "Berkshire Bloviator" and the "Hypocrite from Hathaway", but I am sure that you can come up with your own variations. &lt;/strike&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strike&gt;Any suggestions?&lt;/strike&gt;&amp;nbsp;(As some of you have pointed out, this last part is over the top and unnecessary. So, let me retract it but leave it up so that I am not erasing history.. But I stand by my overall thesis.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-2105149281890348837?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/2105149281890348837/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=2105149281890348837' title='27 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2105149281890348837'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2105149281890348837'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/09/buffett-plan-apt-name-for-sanctimonious.html' title='The Buffett Plan: An apt name for a sanctimonious, hypocritical and superficial proposal'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>27</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-6813977678849286217</id><published>2011-09-21T10:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-21T10:58:29.350-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Breaking up is easy to do...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpulStzGv4A"&gt;Breaking up may have been hard to do for the Carpenters&lt;/a&gt;, but it seems to be easy to do for some companies. Here are just &amp;nbsp;a few examples of companies that have announced plans to dismember themselves, in the last few months:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://consumergoods.edgl.com/trends/Kraft-Foods-to-Split-into-Two-Companies74735"&gt;Kraft Foods&lt;/a&gt;: Kraft Foods split itself into two companies: a division that sells candy and snacks (Oreo, Cadbury, Tang) globally and a division that sells grocery brands in the US (Oscar Meyer, Jell-O).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/13/us-mcgrawhill-idUSTRE78B1Y620110913"&gt;McGraw-Hill&lt;/a&gt;: The company responded to demands by investors that it break itself up by dividing itself into two businesses: McGraw-Hill Markets, which includes the S&amp;amp;P rating and index businesses and McGraw-Hill Education, composed of the publishing and education businesses owned by McGraw-Hill.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903374004576581000189433470.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection"&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;: Reed Hastings, the CEO of Netflix stated that the company would separate its DVD rental business (and give it the name Qwikster) from its streaming-only service (which will continue to be called Netflix).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9PRHSFG0.htm"&gt;Tyco&lt;/a&gt;: &amp;nbsp;Tyco announced its intention to break itself up into three separate companies: a residential security business (ADT), a unit selling valves and controls to energy, mining and water markets and a commercial fire and security business. This represents the closing salvo in a multi-year effort by Tyco to deconglomeratize (I know.. I know.. there is no such word... but there should be) itself.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;b&gt;What happens in a break up?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;To understand the mechanics of breaking up a publicly traded company, recognize that &amp;nbsp;there are three dimensions on which break up can have varying effects, depending on how it is structured:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Control of the management of the business(es)&lt;/i&gt;, where the effect can range from a complete separation of control (with each of the broken up businesses becoming independent companies, completely delinked from the parent company) to de facto serf status for the separated units (with the parent company exercising complete or near complete control over the separated businesses).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;Market pricing of the units&lt;/i&gt;, where the effect can range from the broken up businesses trading as independent units (with their own shares, market price and traded value) to no change in the status quo, with the parent company trading as a single company, composed as a holding company for the separated business units.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;i&gt;A break up can have tax implications&lt;/i&gt; for the investors in the parent company. To the degree that a break up can be viewed as a transition from owning stock in one consolidated company to owning shares in multiple companies, tax authorities may assess capital gains taxes (relative to what was originally paid for the stock) or treat distributions as dividends (and tax them accordingly). Again, in the continuum, you can have break ups that create no tax consequences for investors and break ups that create large tax bills.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The good news is that the details of the break up ultimately have to be made public to investors, who can then assess the control, pricing and tax implications. The bad news is that the details may not be accessible at the time of the initial announcement of the break up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Does breaking up make sense?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;There are many reasons why companies may (or should) break themselves up, and here is a synopsis for each one:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Market mistakes:&lt;/u&gt; The simplest rationale for a break up is that the market is mistakenly valuing the whole company at less than the sum of its pieces. Many analysts/ activist investors use this "sum of the parts" argument to push companies that they feel are being under valued to break up. While the story is intuitive, I would be skeptical of any argument that is premised entirely on "market mistakes", partly because most "sum of the parts" valuations are really "seat of the pants" valuations. Analysts will often take the earnings reported by division for a company, which are contaminated by accounting allocation and transfer pricing decisions made by the company, and apply sector-average earnings multiples (without correcting for differences between companies) to estimate the divisional or parts values. &amp;nbsp;(See the end of this post for a spreadsheet that will allow you to do your own sum of the parts valuation)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Contaminated Parts&lt;/u&gt;: One division of a company may be saddled with actual, perceived or potential liabilities that are so large that they drag down the valuations of the rest of the company. This was the rationale for tobacco companies, faced with potential billion-dollar payouts on lawsuits brought by smokers, spinning of their non-tobacco businesses (See, for instance, the&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2007-01-31-altria-jraft_x.htm"&gt;Kraft spin off from Altria (Philip Morris) in 2007&lt;/a&gt;). In the same vein, a company with a heavily regulated or constrained subsidiary may find that the regulations and constraints on that subsidiary spill over into its other businesses, rendering them less profitable. If restrictions on commercial banking are tightened (think of Dodd-Frank, with teeth...), it is conceivable that the large money center banks may want to spin off their investment banking arms to operate independently.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;The efficiency story&lt;/u&gt;: In the 1960s and 1970s, imperial CEOs &amp;nbsp;(Like Julius Caesar, they brooked no dissent and looked to no one for advice) &amp;nbsp;like &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Geneen"&gt;Harold Geneen&lt;/a&gt; (ITT) and &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bluhdorn"&gt;Charles Bludhorn&lt;/a&gt; (Gulf and Western) built up companies that spanned multiple businesses, arguing (with lots of help from strategists and consultants) that conglomerates would have significant advantages over their smaller competitors. Studies over the last three decades suggests that this optimism was misplaced and that conglomerates are often less efficient than competitors, earning lower returns and profit margins. In fact, markets responded by &lt;a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0304405X94007986"&gt;"discounting" conglomerates by about 5-15%&lt;/a&gt;, to reflect the inefficiencies. If conglomerates are less well run than the competition, perhaps because managers are spread too thin across business or because there is cross subsidization, then breaking them up into their individual businesses should increase efficiency, profits and value. The &lt;a href="http://www.mckinseyquarterly.com/Strategy/Growth/When_to_break_up_a_conglomerate_An_interview_with_Tyco_Internationals_CFO_2057"&gt;break up of Tyco&lt;/a&gt;, a company built on the conglomerate premise (and accounting gamesmanship), over the last decade can be a case study in deconglomeration.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;The simplicity story&lt;/u&gt;: Multi-business companies are not only more difficult to manage but they are also more difficult to value. With companies like GE and United Technologies, different businesses within each company can have very different risk, cash flow and growth characteristics and coming up with a consolidated number can be cumbersome. In my book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Side-Valuation-Distressed-Businesses/dp/0137126891"&gt;the Dark Side of Valuation&lt;/a&gt;, I&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1609795"&gt;examine why valuing their "octopus" companies is so difficult&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(you can just download the paper... you don't have to buy the book..)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;and how to do a true sum of the parts valuation. In good times, investors may overlook the complexities of valuation, trust the managers and value these multi business companies highly. In bad times, they will not be as charitable and will punish complex companies by discounting their value. Breaking up the companies in bite size pieces that are easier to value and trade may therefore increase value, especially if you are in a "crisis" market.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;The tax story&lt;/u&gt;: When tax codes are complex (and when are they not?), companies may be able to lower their tax bills by artfully breaking themselves up. For instance, let us assume that the US government decides to take the populists' advice and tax all income generated by US corporations, anywhere in the world, at the US corporate tax rate in the year in which the income is generated (rather than when it is repatriated back to the US, as is the current law). Multinationals like GE and Coca Cola that generate a significant portion of their taxes in foreign locales, with lower tax rates, will be able to lower their tax bill by breaking up into independent domestic (US) and international entities, with different stockholders, managers and corporate governance structures.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;On the other side of the ledger, there are costs to breaking up as well:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Loss of economies of scale&lt;/u&gt;: Combining businesses into a company can create cost savings. Thus, a group of consumer product businesses may benefit from being consolidated into one unit, with shared advertising and distribution costs. Breaking up with result in a &amp;nbsp;loss of these savings.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Reduced access to capital (and higher cost)&lt;/u&gt;: If external capital markets (stock and bond) are undeveloped or under stress, combining businesses into a consolidated company can provide access to capital. How? The excess cash flows from cash rich businesses can be used to finance reinvestment needs in cash poor businesses.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Lost synergies&lt;/u&gt;: I am generally a skeptic about synergy but it does exist. In some multi-business companies, businesses feed off each other's successes, thus making the whole greater than the sum of its parts. Disney is a good example, especially in its kid-oriented products: its movie business generates opportunities for its licensing businesses and increases revenues at its theme parks. Separating Disney into independent movie, toy and theme park businesses will result in a loss of these benefits.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;If companies were rational, they would be looking at this trade off and making judgments on whether to break up, based upon the net effect. A rational explanation for the surge in break ups is that we are in a market phase, where risk is front and center, and complexity is being punished.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By focusing on sensible reasons for breaking up firms, we do miss the most important factor that explains corporate actions: herd behavior. Investment banks, consultants and corporations often get stuck on the same page in the value creation cookbook and dole out the same advice for each company that comes looking for help at a point in time. Break ups may be the flavor of the moment, and companies are jumping on the bandwagon, expecting stock prices to go up, even if the break up makes no economic sense.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Assessing break ups and potential break ups...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;As investors, the breaking up of a company can be good, neutral or bad news. In assessing either announced or potential break ups, here are some things to consider:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Past performance&lt;/u&gt;: I know.. I know.. I have read the disclaimers too, but if you are performing well (both in terms of earnings and stock prices), why mess with a winning formula? A firm that is performing well (both in terms of profitability and stock price measures) should therefore be less inclined to consider breaking up than a firm that is under performing its competition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Separate and independent businesses&lt;/u&gt;: The benefits of breaking up increase and the costs decrease if the businesses that are being broken up are stand alone, independent businesses, with few or no cross business links. Conversely, companies with interlocked businesses that have synergies should be wary of break up plans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Management rationale and consistent actions&lt;/u&gt;: A break-up is more likely to succeed if &amp;nbsp;the managers of the parent company are &amp;nbsp;clear about their objectives and structure the break up consistently. For instance, if the rationale for a break up of a company is that one business is contaminating the remaining businesses, the break up makes sense only if it creates separate legal entities that operate independently.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, how do the break ups in the news measure up?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Tyco break up makes the most sense: the businesses are separate and independent and managers seem clear on the rationale. It is also part of a long term plan and is not a knee-jerk response to market developments.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The McGraw-Hill merger also makes sense, since there is little overlap between S&amp;amp;P and the education businesses. These firms operated independently until a few years ago and the transition back to independence should be easier. Finally, the current legal and public relations problems with the ratings agencies could hurt the rest of McGraw Hill. (In fact, a surprising number of break ups are reversals of acquisitions done in prior years, an admission that the acquisitions did not work.)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Netflix break up seems like a clumsy solution to a pricing problem: the cost of maintaining a DVD customer is higher than the cost of a streaming customer and that cost difference will widen as fewer people use DVDs. But do you have to break up a company to accomplish this?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;I am at a loss on the Kraft break-up. The businesses that are being divided have more in common than they are different. Oreo, Cadbury, Jell-O and Oscar Meyer are all strong brand names with a global presence. The fact that the latter two may get more of their revenues from US grocery story sales does not strike me as a big difference. Perhaps, there are differences in growth prospects, but the costs of breaking up (lost economies of scale and synergies) seem to vastly outweigh the benefits. In short, this break up seems to fit into "action is better than inaction" rationale for break ups.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Finally, are there other companies that meet the criteria for "good" break up candidates? There are plenty, but let me suggest three high profile candidates:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Time Warner&lt;/u&gt;: Time Warner is a company with tentacles in every aspect of entertainment. Unlike Disney, which does get significant cross business synergies, Time Warner has less overlap across businesses. The company has had trouble on both profitability and stock performance measures and a management that will never outlive the consequences of having made the worst acquisition in history.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;GE&lt;/u&gt;: In the days of Jack Welch, GE was a case study of a large company that seemed to have found the fountain of everlasting growth. Not only have we discovered in hindsight that this growth (mostly from acquisitions) was more expensive than it seemed at the outset, but GE Capital has taken on an outsized role in determining the value of GE as a company. As one of the largest financial service companies in the world, with its own share of costly mistakes, GE Capital is an impediment to valuing GE and an brake on its stock price. Unlike other captive financing arms (Ford Capital, GMAC), where the bulk of the revenues come from within the company and separation is difficult, GE Capital derives a significant portion of its revenues outside GE and should be easier to separate from the company.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Citigroup/Bank of America/ JPM Chase&lt;/u&gt;: The strategies that the big money center banks embarked on, a decade or more ago, of being financial supermarkets, with business interests in banking, real estate, portfolio management and housing finance has blown up in their faces. Instead of the diversification helping the company, one or two portions of each bank (with bad lending practices or toxic assets) is threatening to bring down the rest of the institution. Perhaps, it is time to break up.. or in the case of &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/17/bank-of-america-countrywide-bankruptcy_n_967477.html"&gt;Bank of America,&lt;/a&gt; put one of its businesses into bankruptcy..&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;So, embark on your proactive exercise of looking for potential break up candidates: if you can get ahead of the curve, you should profit, even if only a fraction of these companies do break up. Just to help you along, I have attached a &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/breakupvaluation.xls"&gt;very simple spreadsheet for assessing the effect on value of a break up&lt;/a&gt;, in both intrinsic and relative valuation terms. Have fun with it!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-6813977678849286217?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/6813977678849286217/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=6813977678849286217' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/6813977678849286217'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/6813977678849286217'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/09/breaking-up-is-easy-to-do.html' title='Breaking up is easy to do...'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-5471368724066017253</id><published>2011-09-16T09:04:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-19T06:48:41.028-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Operation Twist II: The Fed as Chubby Checker</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Since the banking crisis of 2008, neither fiscal nor monetary policy has proved up to the task of rejuvenating the US economy. The Federal Reserve, in particular, has explored almost every tool in its arsenal to increase economic growth. In 2009, there was Quantitative Easing II (QE II), where an influx of $ 600 billion was used to buy long-term bonds and lower long term interest rates. Those lower rates, it was argued, would help get housing back on track and increase real economic growth. At the time, &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2010/11/qe2-or-titanic.html"&gt;I argued (though I admitted my limited credentials to be involved in this debate) that I did not think it would work&lt;/a&gt;, for the simple reason that interest rates were already low, with the 10-year T. Bond rate at 3.3%.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Two years later, the 10-year T. Bond rate stands at 2.09% and treasury bill rates are close to zero. &lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904491704576570600842214340.html"&gt;The Fed is now planning to get back into the game with a maneuver that it has last tried in 1961: Operation Twist&lt;/a&gt;. Simply put, here is what the Fed hopes to do. Rather than introduce more funds into the system (like QE2 did), Operation Twist is a shift in what securities the Fed invests in, rather than how much. The Fed, which holds about $1.7 trillion of US treasuries is planning of reducing its purchases of short term treasuries (1 month, 3 month etc.) and increasing its holdings of long term treasuries (10 years and higher). Assuming that the rest of the market stays in a holding pattern, the increased demand for long term bonds should lower those rates, while the rate for the short term notes and bills will increase. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Now, let’s look at the why. There seem to be three stories offered: &amp;nbsp;an “interest rate” story, where real growth will increase as a consequence of this maneuver, a “confidence” story, where US companies and consumers will be heartened by the Fed’s activism and and a “valuation” story, where stock prices will react favorably to the shift in the term structure:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The “interest rate” story goes as follows. There are a number of key consumer (mortgage financing) and corporate interest rates (corporate bonds, long term bank loans) that are tied to the long term rate. &amp;nbsp;In its optimistic version, for consumers, QE3 will reduce the rates on mortgages, inducing those staying on the sidelines to either borrow and buy a new house or to refinance an existing house at the lower rate, with the savings going into consumption. Companies, it is argued, will also be more likely to borrow more, if corporate bond rates decrease, and make new capital investments.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The “confidence” story is based upon the presumption that both producers and consumers in the United States prefer a Fed that acts to one that does not. Since QE3 would qualify as action, both groups, it is argued, will become more inclined to invest, consume and take risks.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The valuation story builds on the first two. Here is what the optimistic take is: a lower long term rate will trump higher short term rates, pushing discount rates down. The higher real growth, coming from the interest rate story, and lower risk premiums, emanating from the confidence story, will then augment this impact, causing stock prices to increase even more.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Nice stories, but QE2 was also supposed to make a real difference in real growth and put the economy back on track. Here is why I think QE3 is destined for the same fate:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;For the interest rate story to work, long-term interest rates have to go down significantly without short term rates shooting up too much. In the figure below, I have the yield curve in September 2011.&amp;nbsp;If the 10-year bond rate is at 2%, how much lower can it go? Even the optimists at the Fed seem to foresee a drop of about 20 basis points as the outcome and no one seems to have an estimate on the concurrent increase in short term rates. Since mortgage rates are already at historic lows, I don’t see a further drop of 0.20% making much difference.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ywdmvZ1widU/TndG2RkSHiI/AAAAAAAAAFA/decHQLpWas4/s1600/yldcurve2011.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="217" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ywdmvZ1widU/TndG2RkSHiI/AAAAAAAAAFA/decHQLpWas4/s320/yldcurve2011.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I don’t buy the confidence story, simply because I don’t think action always trumps inaction. In fact, my reaction to hearing that the Fed was trying to twist the yield curve is that they must be scraping the bottom of the barrel, if this is the best that they can do.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Finally, the valuation story. Does the level of interest rates affect stock prices? Of course! Does the slope of the yield curve matter for equities? Also, yes! One way to see this is to look at the Earnings to Price (EP) ratio (the inverse of the PE ratio) for the S&amp;amp;P 500 (using trailing earnings) in relationship to the 10-year T. bond rate (measuring the level of rates) and the difference between the 10-year rate and the T.Bill rate (measuring the slope of the yield curve) from 1960-2010.&amp;nbsp;Regressing the EP ratio against the ten-year rate and the yield spread differential (with t statistics in brackets):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: .5in; tab-stops: 1.5in;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10.0pt; margin-left: .5in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 12.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;EP = 2.66% + 0.67 Ten-year T.Bond rate&amp;nbsp; - 0.31% (T.Bond rate - 3 month T.Bill rate)&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10.0pt; margin-left: .5in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 12.0pt; tab-stops: 58.5pt 1.5in 261.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (3.37)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (6.41)&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (1.36)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10.0pt; margin-left: .5in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 12.0pt; tab-stops: 58.5pt 1.5in 261.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;How would I read this? At least between 1960 and 2010, every 1% increase in the long term bond rate increases the EP rate by 0.67% and every 1% increase in the slope of the yield curve decreases the EP ratio by 0.31%.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 10.0pt; margin-left: .5in; margin-right: 0in; margin-top: 12.0pt; tab-stops: 58.5pt 1.5in 261.0pt;"&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ojLiQjgYxfU/TndHXJoroSI/AAAAAAAAAFE/x8i3eAf7AOk/s1600/epvsintrates.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="218" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ojLiQjgYxfU/TndHXJoroSI/AAAAAAAAAFE/x8i3eAf7AOk/s320/epvsintrates.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: .5in;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3021-peyield.html"&gt;The EP ratio for the S&amp;amp;P 500 right now is about 6.97%, based upon a trailing PE of 14.34&lt;/a&gt;. Assume that the best case scenario unfolds and that long term rates drop by 0.20% and that short term rates increase by 0.20%. By my estimates, the EP ratio for the S&amp;amp;P 500 will remain almost unchanged at 6.96%, resulting in the trailing PE of 14.36. Thus, stock prices will not change by much as a result of this action. Perhaps, long term rates will drop by more and/or short term rates will rise less. &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/optwist.xls"&gt;You can download the spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt; that I used for my computation and input your best estimates: this spreadsheet has four worksheets: the raw data on the index and fundamentals, the chart of the historical EP ratios, the regression output (backing the regression above) and a prediction worksheet (where you can estimate the effect on stock prices). Have a go at it! As for myself, I will stick with my &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVQ0MXp-8ds"&gt;favored version of the twist&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-5471368724066017253?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/5471368724066017253/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=5471368724066017253' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5471368724066017253'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5471368724066017253'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/09/operation-twist-ii-fed-as-chubby.html' title='Operation Twist II: The Fed as Chubby Checker'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ywdmvZ1widU/TndG2RkSHiI/AAAAAAAAAFA/decHQLpWas4/s72-c/yldcurve2011.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-4482787211705558852</id><published>2011-09-07T09:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-09-07T10:01:34.524-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Class is in session...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;As some of you probably already know, I teach at the Stern School of Business at NYU. Well, summer is officially over and a new semester is beginning. In a rite that I repeat at the start of every semester that I teach, I want to invite you to be part of my class this semester. Note, though, that this invitation is completely unofficial and approaching NYU for credit for taking the class is a definite no no.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;This semester's class:Valuation&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The only class that I will be teaching this fall is Valuation. A little history, though it may bore you, is in order here. I came to NYU in 1986 and the very first class that I was asked to teach was a Security Analysis course, a class with deep and venerable roots (Ben Graham taught this class at Columbia and Warren Buffett took it in the 1950s). It was a class on valuing securities of all types, bonds, futures, options and stocks, but it had outlived its useful life by the mid 1980s, partly because there were other electives that focused on bonds and derivatives and partly because there was no narrative left that fit the class. I hijacked the class, revamped its content (without renaming it), and made it a semester-long class on valuing businesses: small and large, public and privately owned, growth and mature and developed and emerging markets. About 4 years ago, the administration recognized the obvious and changed the name of the class to reflect its content.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;What is this class about?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While the class is centered around intrinsic valuation (or discounted cash flow valuation, if you prefer to use its applied form), and I am a firm believer that intrinsic value matters, I try (though I do not always succeed) to keep an open mind and not force feed my views. Consequently, you will hear me talk a lot about the limitations of discounted cash flow valuation and what I see as its dark side. In addition, a significant portion of the class is devoted to multiples and comparables (what I term relative valuation), since it is the dominant approach used by analysts to value companies. I do also bring in the role that option pricing has played in valuation, in the form of real options. Thus, I try to make this class as broad as possible in terms of approaches covered and businesses valued.. My objective is that you should be able to value any asset or business, using any approach, and from any perspective (investor, acquirer, appraiser), by the end of this class.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;What background do I need to take the class?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This class is an elective that is taken primarily by second year MBAs, most of whom have had the misfortune to take a full semester class in Corporate Finance from me in the previous year. However, I do make the assumption that a summer is all you need to wipe out everything you have learned over the previous year and the first three or four weeks of this class provide a quick review of the corporate finance class.&lt;br /&gt;I do assume that you have some working knowledge of accounting, present value and statistics. If you do not, I would recommend quick primers that I have online that may be useful to you:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/New_Home_Page/background.html"&gt;http://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/New_Home_Page/background.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But even if you don't have time to do these things, why not just drop by and listen to a lecture or two?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;How do I take this class?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a. The first thing to do is to visit the website for the class:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/equity.html"&gt;http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/equity.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the central repository for everything to do with the class.&lt;br /&gt;b. The second is to download the lecture notes for the class and watch the webcasts for the class. Both are available on this page:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/New_Home_Page/webcasteqfall11.htm"&gt;http://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/New_Home_Page/webcasteqfall11.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You have two choices with the lecture notes. You can print them off on paper and use them in conjunction with the webcasts. Alternatively, you can download them as pdf files and read them on your iPad or Kindle (if you have one). On the webcasts, you have three choices:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;Streaming video (The file will be streamed to your computer. This will work only if you have a good internet connection, but should be of the best quality)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Video podcast (The .m4v file will be downloaded to your computer and you can watch the video using Quicktime or video software or on your iPad or Smartphone)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Audio podcast (The .mp3 file will be downloaded as an audio file and can be played on any audio player)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;c. If you really want to feel involved in this class, you can go further:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Get emails&lt;/u&gt;: I send out emails almost every day for this class, relating to what's coming up in the class and topics of general interest. You can read the emails by going to&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="http://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/New_Home_Page/eqemail.html"&gt;http://people.stern.nyu.edu/adamodar/New_Home_Page/eqemail.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Take quizzes/exam&lt;/u&gt;: I will post the quizzes on the website, right after I give it in class and the solutions the day after (with grading guidelines). You can take the quizzes/exam and grade yourself (follow the honor code).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Valuation project&lt;/u&gt;: This class has a big project that is a valuation of a company. You can pick any company and follow along on the project. On this one, unfortunately, I cannot be a full service operation. While I do give feedback to those who are officially in the class, I cannot do the same with everyone who is taking the class unofficially. If you do get stuck on a concept, and I can help, I will try.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One final resource that you may want to use. I am trying out a new device put together by a few very smart, enterprising young people called coursekit. It essentially pulls together everything that is on the website for the class and adds a social media component (think Facebook embedded in the course page). I like the look and you can see it by going to:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.coursekit.com/"&gt;http://www.coursekit.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Enter the code&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"&gt;FHGN2P and you will become part of the course online. I will put the emails that I send on here and it will let you raise questions/issues related to valuation that can be discussed.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px;"&gt;In closing, I hope you do drop by and become part of this experience.... See you in class!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-4482787211705558852?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/4482787211705558852/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=4482787211705558852' title='12 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/4482787211705558852'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/4482787211705558852'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/09/class-is-in-session.html' title='Class is in session...'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-2516354786460916735</id><published>2011-08-25T19:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-26T10:20:53.651-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Buffett and Bank of America: Playing Poker with Patsies...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Warren Buffet is famously quoted as saying, "If you have been playing poker for half an hour and you still don't know who the patsy is, you're the patsy". Today, we got a glimpse of Buffett playing poker with Bank of America, and at least from my perspective, it seems clear who the patsy in this game is... it is either Bank of America's stockholders or the rest of us who attribute mystical properties (and uncommon ethics) to the Oracle from Omaha...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, let's recap what happened. It has been a rough few months for Bank of America stock, prior to today. The stock price had halved between November and yesterday:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DxbUmvjStAE/Tla_oQPvkYI/AAAAAAAAAE0/np5y9uEUM-k/s1600/z.png" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="237" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DxbUmvjStAE/Tla_oQPvkYI/AAAAAAAAAE0/np5y9uEUM-k/s400/z.png" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;Macro factors (the Euro crisis and the S&amp;amp;P downgrade) did play a role in the price decline but the company had itself to blame as well. &amp;nbsp;It reported a loss of $8.8 billion for the second quarter of 2011, reflecting payments to settle legal claims related to troubled mortgages.While the stock price decline suggested that the market was increasingly pessimistic about the company's future profitability, the company itself indicated that it was &lt;a href="http://www.istockanalyst.com/business/news/5341769/bank-of-america-shares-falling-again"&gt;sufficiently capitalized&lt;/a&gt; to make it through these travails. Earlier this month, the company announced that it would lay off 3500 employees and cut costs, but evoked little positive response from the market.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;Today, we woke up to the news story that Warren Buffett, white knight extraordinaire, had ridden to the rescue of Bank of America.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://on.wsj.com/nUOWBS"&gt;http://on.wsj.com/nUOWBS&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;Here were the terms of the deal:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;- Buffett invests $ 5 billion in preferred stock, with a 6% cumulative dividend, redeemable by the company at a 5% premium on face value.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;- If Bank of America is unable to pay the preferred dividend, not only do the dividends cumulate but they do so at 8% per annum and the bank is restricted from paying dividends or buying back stock, in the meantime.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;- Buffett get options to buy 700 million shares in BofA at $7.14/share, exercisable any time over the next 10 years.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;Let's see what Buffett gets out of the deal. Valuing the options with a strike price of $7.14, even using yesterday's low price of $6.40/share, an annualized standard deviation of 50% in the stock price (significantly lower than the 3-year historical standard deviation of 79% and the implied standard deviation in excess of 100% from the option market) &amp;nbsp;and a ten-year maturity, I estimate a &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/blog/buffettoptions.xls"&gt;value of $4.30/option&lt;/a&gt; or an overall value of approximately $ 3 billion (700*4.30) for the options. (I know.. I know.. &amp;nbsp;Buffett does not like using the Black-Scholes model for long term options...Perhaps, he sold Bank of America's managers on the idea of using the famous Buffett-Munger long term option value model to derive a value of zero for these options...) Netting the $ 3 billion value of the options out of the $ 5 billion investment in the preferred stock makes it a $ 2 billion investment, on which $ 300 million is being paid in dividends. That works out to an effective dividend yield of 15% on the investment. By exercising his veto power over dividends and stock buybacks, Buffett can ensure that he is always the first person to be paid after debt holders in the firm. To cap it off, Berkshire Hathaway will be able to exclude 70% of the dividends received from Bank of America in computing taxable income (this is the rule with inter-company dividends), when paying taxes next year. &amp;nbsp; That is an incredibly sweet deal!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;What did Bank of America get out of this deal? Let's look at what it did not get first:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;It did not get &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tier_1_capital"&gt;Tier 1 capital&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(the most stringent measure of bank capital), which includes only common equity, and thus does not get any stronger on that dimension. (Update: I have been getting mixed responses on this issue from those who are well versed in bank regulatory capital rules, some saying that I am right and others that I am wrong. The fact that it is cumulative preferred stock, according to some, makes it ineligible for Tier 1 capital, whereas others note that Citi was allowed in 2008 to count cumulative preferred as Tier 1. &lt;a href="http://business.financialpost.com/2011/08/26/buffetts-bofa-deal-wont-help-tier-1-ratio-yet/"&gt;Here is one article that seems to provide clarity &amp;nbsp;on the topic&lt;/a&gt;. My final response. Whether this passes the regulatory rule requirement or not, it does not pass the common sense rule for Tier 1 capital. If financing results in a commitment of $ 300 million each year that you have to meet, or roll over, it cannot be true Tier 1 capital, no matter what the rules say... )&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;It gets no tax deductions, since preferred dividends are not tax deductible. So, the $ 300 million in dividends will have to be paid out of after-tax income.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;It risks losing flexibility on dividend policy and stock buybacks, as a consequence of the restrictions imposed on this deal.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;The only conceivable benefit I see accruing from this transaction to the company is that Buffett has provided some cover for the managers of Bank of America to make two arguments: that the bank is not in immediate financial trouble and that it is, in fact, a well managed bank.&amp;nbsp;I, for one, am not willing to accept Buffett's investment (or his words) as proof of either, and the way the deal is structured is not consistent with any of the arguments I have been hearing all day (from those who think it is good for Bank of America stockholders).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;First, let us assume that the bank is not in financial trouble and that the market has run away with its fears over the last few months. But, why would a bank that is not on the verge of collapse agree to raising capital at an after-tax rate of 15% and give up power over its dividend and buyback policy? And given the extremely generous terms offered to Buffett on this deal, how can this action be viewed as an indicator of good management?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Playing devil's advocate, let's look at the other possibility, which is that the bank has been hiding its problems and is in far worse shape than the rest of us think. If so, perhaps the terms of the deal make sense to Buffett (high risk/high return), but the deal still does not make sense to Bank of America. If the bank is in that much trouble, it should be raising tier 1 capital, and adding $ 300 million in preferred dividends to its required payments each year makes no sense. And, if it is in fact the case that the bank is in a lot more trouble that we thought, how can Buffett in good conscience then claim that BofA is a "strong, well-led company"?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;Either the terms of deal are way too favorable to Mr. Buffett or he is not being forthright in his description of the company... In either case, this does not pass the smell test.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;"&gt;I know that there are some who are comparing Buffett's deal with Bank of America to his earlier deal with Goldman Sachs. But there is a key difference. The Goldman deal was entered into at the depths of the banking crisis, and in a period where liquidity had dried up, Buffett was providing capital. Even in that case, you could argue that Goldman Sachs paid a hefty price for taking money from Buffett to shore up their standing... Perhaps, this has become Buffett's competitive advantage. Rather than buy and hold under valued companies, which is what he used to do, he focuses on companies that have lost credibility and he sells them his credibility at a hefty price. &amp;nbsp;I know that Buffett has accumulated a great deal of trust with investors over the decades, but even his stock will run dry at some point in time, especially if he keeps dissembling after each intervention about the company, its management and his own motives.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In summary, is this deal good for Buffett? Absolutely, and I don't begrudge him any money he makes on this deal or the fact that the tax law may work in his favor. Does the deal make sense to Bank of America's stockholders? I don't think so, notwithstanding some of the cheerleading you are hearing from some equity research analysts and the market's positive reaction. Is Bank of America a "strong, well-led" company? Only if you have a very perverse definition of strong and well-led...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-2516354786460916735?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/2516354786460916735/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=2516354786460916735' title='52 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2516354786460916735'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2516354786460916735'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/08/buffett-and-bank-of-america-poker-and.html' title='Buffett and Bank of America: Playing Poker with Patsies...'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DxbUmvjStAE/Tla_oQPvkYI/AAAAAAAAAE0/np5y9uEUM-k/s72-c/z.png' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>52</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-8620882338800761533</id><published>2011-08-19T14:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-19T14:44:12.075-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Trapped Cash: Measurement and Consequences</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;It is an open secret that US companies have accumulated huge cash balances over the last two years. In fact, there were a &lt;a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2011/TECH/innovation/07/29/apple.cash.government/"&gt;few mentions&lt;/a&gt; that Apple's cash balance of $76 billion gave it more cash than the US treasury a few weeks ago, and I did a &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/01/how-much-cash-is-too-much-looking-at.html"&gt;post on a while back on whether Apple had too much cash&lt;/a&gt;. While this "sitting on cash story" is an interesting one, there is a sub-story that we need to pay attention to and that may affect how we value companies. Not all of cash balances are equally benign. In fact, a significant portion of the cash balance, at some companies, may be "trapped" and thus not easily accessible, either for investments or paying dividends.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;What is trapped cash?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;Trapped cash refers to the portion of a company's cash that is held a company that is held in fully-owned foreign subsidiaries or units of the company. Note that there is nothing illegal or even unusual about this phenomenon. All multinationals generate revenue, earnings and cash flows in foreign markets, and those cash flows are held (at least temporarily) in those markets. As US companies generate larger proportions of their revenues overseas, the cash flows they generate from foreign markets has also increased.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Why is it trapped?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;There are four reasons why cash may be trapped in foreign subsidiaries:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Operating reasons&lt;/u&gt;: To the extent that there are significant growth opportunities in foreign markets (especially in Asia), the cash is being held in abeyance to cover investment needs in these markets.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Foreign restrictions&lt;/u&gt;: In some markets, the country in question has put significant restrictions on remittances from that country back to the United States. To be fair, these restrictions are sometimes tied to incentives or favorable tax treatment offered to the company for investing in the country.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. US tax laws&lt;/u&gt;: Income generated by US companies in foreign countries is first taxed by those countries, when it is earned. However, it is not subject to US taxes until it is remitted back to the United States, with foreign taxes paid allowed as a credit. Thus, if a US company generates $ 1 billion in taxes in China, it will pay the Chinese corporate tax rate of 25% on this income. When that income is remitted back to the US, the income will be taxed at the US corporate tax rate of 35%, with the $250 million in Chinese taxes paid already as an offset. The net tax paid to the US government at the time of remittance will therefore be $100 million. By letting the cash accumulate in the foreign subsidiary, the company will be able to delay paying taxes to the US government.&amp;nbsp;Since the US has one of the highest marginal corporate tax rates in the world, cash accumulation in foreign subsidiaries is a given, with the accumulation being&amp;nbsp;greatest in countries that have marginal corporate tax rates much lower than the United States.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;d. Accounting&lt;/u&gt;: Adding to the tax law is a &lt;a href="http://www.ifrsaccountant.com/foreign-earnings-tax-holiday-gaap-ifrs.html"&gt;GAAP accounting requirement &lt;/a&gt;that US companies with foreign income recognize the US taxes that they would have to pay on that income, in the period in which the foreign income is generated (rather than wait for remittance). There is, however, an exception. If the company makes the assertion that it never intends to bring the cash back home, it does not have to recognize US taxes. Not surprisingly, many US companies make this assertion to reduce taxes paid on income statements (and increase after-tax income).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;Thus, there is both a cash flow and a reported earnings rationale for holding cash in foreign subsidiaries and the cost of remittance will increase over time, as the foreign cash balance increases.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;How big is the trapped cash balance?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;There are estimates floating around the blogosphere that put the total trapped cash well in excess of a trillion; a JP Morgan Chase analyst report estimated that 519 US multinationals alone accounted for about $1.4 trillion in trapped cash. The truth is that no one has a precise estimate because US companies are not required to reveal how much of their cash is held in foreign subsidiaries. There are three ways of estimating the amount of trapped cash:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Public reports&lt;/u&gt;: While companies are not required to break out their trapped cash, some companies do so voluntarily. For instance, Apple in its most recent 10K explicitly broke out the portion of its cash balance that was held overseas; it specified that more than $30 billion was invested overseas (Update: It is estimated that $41 billion of Apple's cash balance of $76 billion in mid-2011 is invested in foreign units).&amp;nbsp;You could extrapolate from the numbers reported by these companies to the rest of the market. Thus, if 55% of the cash balances at companies that report foreign cash balances explicitly is trapped cash, you could assume that a similar proportion applies to companies that are not explicit. The danger, of course, is that companies that are not explicit about their cash holdings may be very different in their behavior than firm that are.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Operating exposure&lt;/u&gt;: Companies do report what proportion of their revenues and operating income is generated in foreign markets, In 2010, for instance, S&amp;amp;P estimated that 46.3% of revenues of the S&amp;amp;P 500 companies were generated overseas. One could argue that 46.3% of the cash balances of these companies are trapped, though that requires heroic assumptions about earnings and cash remittances at these companies.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Effective tax rates&lt;/u&gt;: If we assume that companies that trap cash in foreign subsidiaries also adopt the consistent accounting rule (of asserting that they do not plan to bring that cash back to the US), the effective tax rate of a company should provide some information on its cash trapping practices: the more cash that is being trapped in foreign subsidiaries, the lower the effective tax rate for the company should be.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;No matter how you measure the magnitude of the trapped cash, we know that it is a very large number. How? Well, companies are spending millions of dollars lobbying Congress to change the tax laws on remittances and they would not be doing this, if there were not billions at stake.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;So, what if cash is trapped?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;Now, to the billion dollar question. Why does it matter whether cash is trapped or not? Put in more general terms, does this trapped cash have any consequences for corporate finance, valuation and the general well-being of US companies? I think it does and here are some reasons why:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;a. &lt;u&gt;Trapped cash may be wasting cash&lt;/u&gt;: In most valuations, we treat cash as a neutral asset, i.e., we value a dollar of cash at a dollar and add the cash balance on to the value of operating assets to arrive at firm value. However, cash is a neutral asset only if it earns a fair market return, given the risk and liquidity of the investment. Investments in treasury bills and commercial paper may earn a low rate, but a fair rate, of return and are thus neutral investments. Cash trapped in some emerging markets may not be as easily invested in fair market return investments. In fact, it is possible that the closest selection to a liquid, risk less investment is a bank deposit delivering interest income much lower than justified. That cash will have to be discounted and the value of the firm will decrease as a consequence.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;b. &lt;u&gt;Trapped cash may create financial constraints (and costs)&lt;/u&gt;: It is possible that a company that has significant portions of its cash trapped in other markets may have to raise new financing (debt or equity) to carry out transactions or worse still, not take good investments because it does not have the capital available to do so. Thus, you may have the oddity of a company like Google with $20 billion in a cash balance issuing $ 3 billion in bonds to make an investment. The value of the firm will be reduced by the transactions costs associated with the new financing (if new financing is raised) or the value lost by turning down good investments (if investments are rejected).&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;c. &lt;u&gt;Trapped cash may induce "bad" investment decisions&lt;/u&gt;: Companies with significant trapped cash may jump at the chance of using that cash, even if the investments taken offer sub-par returns. The defense will be that they have nothing better to do with the cash. This is the &lt;a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/05/11/dealpolitik-lesson-from-microsoftskype-congress-must-fix-corporate-tax-law/"&gt;rationale that was offered by some&lt;/a&gt; for Microsoft's acquisition of Skype, a Luxembourg based company that allowed Microsoft to use up $8.5 billion of its trapped cash. &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/05/is-skype-worth-85-billion-exercise-in.html"&gt;I have argued earlier that Microsoft over paid for Skype&lt;/a&gt;. The fact that they were able to use trapped cash is small consolation and does not alter the value destructive aspects of that transaction.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;How can this cash be released?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;If you accept the premise that trapped cash can be value destructive, at least for some companies, then the question becomes one of how best to "untrap" this cash. Here are the options:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. The punitive solution&lt;/u&gt;: The tax law can be changed to require that all income generated by US-based corporations will be taxed at the US tax rate, when the income is generated, even if it is in foreign subsidiaries. While this solution may be appealing to those angry at corporations, it will be counter productive and may very well backfire. In particular, note that a multi-national does not need to be US-based and it is conceivable that many multi-nationals will chose to switch their incorporation to a more benign tax regime rather than pay billions more in taxes each year.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. The benign solution&lt;/u&gt;: The tax law can be changed to eliminate the "differential tax" (reflecting the difference between the US corporate tax rate and the foreign corporate tax rate) when income is remitted back to the United States. That will eliminate both the tax and the accounting rationales for trapped cash but will be a tough sell politically.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. The bad solution&lt;/u&gt;: The worst solution to adopt is one that provides the illusion of being punitive without the tax revenues to go with the punishment. That is effectively what we have right now, where remitted income is subject to a differential tax but where every decade or so, we have a tax holiday where companies are allowed to bring trapped cash home without paying the differential tax.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;What do I see happening? I think that there will be a tax holiday, either explicitly or implicitly allowing companies to bring trapped cash home without the differential tax bite (or at least a fraction of the tax bite). The legislation will be accompanied by face saving adjuncts: a requirement (toothless and unenforceable) that companies that bring home cash invest in "job creating" investments and a promise that this will be the last tax holiday ever (Yeah... right...) The stock price impact of the legislation will be minimal even for companies with large trapped cash balances. The day after the tax holiday firms will go back to accumulating more foreign cash and waiting for the next tax holiday.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;If the cash is released, what will happen?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: left;"&gt;As talk of a tax fix fills the air, proponents of the tax holiday are already thinking about what they see emerging in the aftermath, with each group seeing their preferred option winning out.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;The first group believes that the freed cash will be used by companies to make new investments and "create jobs". In my view, that's not going to happen! US companies have plenty of cash on hand already and are not taking new investments. Why would adding to the hoard change that? The roots for sagging real investment in the US are in a stagnant economy with excess capacity on most fronts, where good investments are scarce. I know that there is talk of linking a change in the tax law to "forced investment", where firms will have to invest remitted cash into job-creating investments to qualify for the tax benefits. That will create more harm than good.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The second group is convinced that they will see stock prices pop up for companies with significant cash balances, as the discounts that markets have applied to the trapped cash disappear. That too is a misconception. To the extent that the expectation that the tax law will be changed has already been built into market prices, the actual change (if and when it happens) will not be a surprise.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The third group sees the released cash as potential dividends and buybacks. History suggests that they have some reason to be optimistic, since &lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1337206"&gt;that is exactly what happened the last time there was a tax holiday for foreign cash&lt;/a&gt;. While the higher dividends and buybacks will increase cash returned to stockholders, it will be partially (or perhaps even fully) offset by a decrease in equity value as cash leaves these companies.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;In summary, a tax holiday is likely to be a non-event for markets and have little impact on corporate investment or economic growth.&amp;nbsp;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-8620882338800761533?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/8620882338800761533/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=8620882338800761533' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8620882338800761533'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8620882338800761533'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/08/trapped-cash-measurement-and.html' title='Trapped Cash: Measurement and Consequences'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-1299132309344463961</id><published>2011-08-08T10:03:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-08T10:22:28.413-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Momentum versus Contrarian: Two Reads of the ERP</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;I am not much of a market timer but there is one number I do track on a consistent basis: the equity risk premium. I follow it for two reasons. First, it is a key input in estimating the cost of equity, when valuing individual companies. Second, it offers a window into the market mood, rising during market crises. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the ERP to play this role, it has to be forward looking and dynamic. The. conventional approach of looking at the past won't accomplish this. You can however use the current level of the index, with expected cashflows, to back out an expected return on stocks. (Think of it as an IRR for equities.) You can check out the spreadsheet that does this, on my website (&lt;a href="http://www.damodaran.com/"&gt;http://www.damodaran.com&lt;/a&gt;) on the front page.Here is the link for the July 1 spreadsheet. Just replace the index and T.Bond rate with the current level and use the Goal seek in excel:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/%7Eadamodar/pc/implprem/ERPJune11.xls"&gt;http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPJune11.xls&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A little history on this "implied ERP": it was between 3 and 3.5% through much of the 1960s, rose during the 1970s to peak at 6.5% in 1978 and embarked on a two decade decline to an astoundingly low  2% at the end of 1999 (the peak of the dot com boom). The dot com correction pushed it back to about 4% in 2002, where it stagnated until September 2008. The banking-induced crisis caused it to almost double by late November 2008. As the fear subsided, the premium dropped back to pre-crisis levels by January 2010. I have the month-by-month gyrations on my site, also on the front page.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/%7Eadamodar/pc/implprem/ERPbymonth.xls"&gt;http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPbymonth.xls&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, to the present. The ERP started this year at 5.20% and gradually climbed to 5.92% at the start of August. Today (8/8/11) at 11.15 am, in the midst of market carnage, with the S&amp;amp;P 500 at 1166 and the 10-year T. Bond at 2.41%, the implied ERP stood at 6.62%. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what? If you are a contrarian, you could view this as an opportunity: a return to past norms (4-5% ERP) would translate into a 30-40%  jump in the index). If you are a momentum investor, you see the thundering herd and join in, selling short or buying puts. If you are a fence sitter, you are liquidating your stocks and holding cash, waiting for steady state (which may be a long time coming). My last post should provide enough clues as to where I stand  but if you are in one of the other camps, I will not try to convert you. Different strokes for different folks!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-1299132309344463961?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/1299132309344463961/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=1299132309344463961' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1299132309344463961'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1299132309344463961'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/08/momentum-versus-contrarian-two-reads-of.html' title='Momentum versus Contrarian: Two Reads of the ERP'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-7551239029037944880</id><published>2011-08-06T14:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-08-06T14:50:46.864-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Chill, dude! It is not the ratings downgrade.. It is how you react to it!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_1dfvla="111"&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_9wqzhp="103"&gt;Sorry about the title, but I am in Southern California, in surfer terriotory! I guess that the debt ceiling debate was not the end game it was made out to be. In spite (or perhaps because) of the fact that the debt ceiling was raised by Congress, S&amp;amp;P decided to downgrade the sovereign rating for the US from AAA to AA+. As the headlines trumpet the news and the airwaves are filled with self-styled experts telling us how this will change the world as we know it, it is useful to step back and ask a few questions about yesterday's momentous events:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_1dfvla="111"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_1dfvla="111"&gt;&lt;em closure_uid_1dfvla="129"&gt;1. Was there&amp;nbsp; "information" in yesterday's ratings change?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_1dfvla="111"&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_9wqzhp="132"&gt;Let's see. S&amp;amp;P's rationale for the ratings change is that the US has a lot of debt, that it is adding to with large continuing deficits, that are perpetuated by&amp;nbsp;a dysfunctional political system. Duh! I don't think any of us needed S&amp;amp;P to tell us this...&amp;nbsp;I don't see any news in this ratings change. You may wonder why that rationale cannot be applied to&amp;nbsp;any ratings change, for corporates as well as sovereign ratings. And it can... For well-followed corporates, ratings changes are almost never big news with the bulk of the effect occurring before the change is made. The confirmation of conventional wisdom does carry some weight, but not very much. Ratings agencies are like those guests who show up at the party just as it is breaking up, too late to join in the fun and not early in to make a difference.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_1dfvla="111"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_1dfvla="111"&gt;&lt;em closure_uid_1dfvla="132"&gt;2. What do ratings agencies do?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_1dfvla="111"&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_9wqzhp="133"&gt;Ratings agencies are "measurers", not "diagnosticians": they can tell you (they think) that&amp;nbsp;something is wrong but they are not very good at telling you why or what to do about it. I think that S&amp;amp;P is pointing to the fact that the default risk in US government debt has increased over the last year and I think that they are right on that count. Beyond that, though, I would not lend too much credence to any of the policy changes that they feel will alleviate the problem... and the answers to the next two questions should explain why...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_1dfvla="111"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_1dfvla="111"&gt;&lt;em&gt;3. Can bad things follow this downgrade?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_1dfvla="111"&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_ofjatv="117"&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_9wqzhp="134"&gt;Of course, but it is not the downgrade itself that would worry me.. it&amp;nbsp;is the reactions to the downgrade. We have seen the script before and here is the most&amp;nbsp;negative&amp;nbsp;(and unfortunately, most likely&amp;nbsp;scenario). First, you will have representatives of the downgraded entity (in this case, the US treasury) argue that the ratings agencies got it wrong. Second, the same entity will do everything in its power to make the ratings agencies happy so that they can reclaim lost glory. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_ofjatv="117"&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_9wqzhp="135"&gt;I cannot predict the end result here, but corporations that have played this game have almost always lost. Fighting a ratings agency just prolongs the effect of the ratings action and&amp;nbsp;gives the ratings agency even more power. You cannot run a healthy business (or economy) with the objective of keeping ratings agencies happy. After all, if a business were run with the sole objective of minimizing default risk, it would not borrow much, it would never take risky investments or pay dividends. It would just be a pile of cash backing up debt obligations. The bankers will be happy but who else would gain?&amp;nbsp;You can draw the analogies to an entire economy yourself....&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_1dfvla="111"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_1dfvla="111"&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_glqrv="119"&gt;&lt;em&gt;4. Can good things follow this downgrade?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_1dfvla="111"&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_glqrv="115"&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_ofjatv="119"&gt;In a perverse way, a ratings downgrade can free decision makers to focus on what matters. With a business, this would translate into decisions that maximize the value of the business rather than maintain&amp;nbsp;a high&amp;nbsp;rating. An interesting article in the NY Times a few days ago highlights this proposition:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_glqrv="115"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/business/aaa-rating-is-a-rarity-in-business.html"&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/business/aaa-rating-is-a-rarity-in-business.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_glqrv="115"&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_ofjatv="120"&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_9wqzhp="136"&gt;Note that this does not mean that default risk is not a factor in decision making but rather that ratings are an artificial constraint. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_ofjatv="120"&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_9wqzhp="137"&gt;Can the same rationale be applied to a government? I don't see why not. Now that the bogeyman of "losing the AAA rating" is out of the closet, it can focus on policies that make the economy more vibrant, with the constraint of keeping default risk (and deficits) under control. If I were Tim Geithner, on &lt;u&gt;Meet The Press&lt;/u&gt; tomorrow, I would not waste my time arguing with S&amp;amp;P about whether the ratings downgrade was merited on or not. Instead, I would accept it as a fait accompli and move on to set the agenda for what I would do in terms of economic policy. Am I hopeful that this will happen? Not really...&amp;nbsp;but I am glad that I am not the Secretary of the Treasury at the moment...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_ofjatv="120"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_ofjatv="120"&gt;&lt;div closure_uid_9wqzhp="110"&gt;At the risk of adding my voice to the cacaphony, here is what I would suggest. The worst thing that investors, analysts, legislators and policy makers is to change the tried and the true (ways to invest, analyze companies or set policy) because S&amp;amp;P has changed a rating. The best thing that they can do is to realize that the world has not changed over the last 24 hours and to use common sense as a guide to good practice. For investors, this will mean staying diversified across asset classes and globally in their asset allocation decisions, and due diligence in picking companies. For analysts, it will require going beyond assuming that the government bond rate is the riskfree rate and using historical risk premiums. So, my advice is that you skip the S&amp;amp;P press conference on Monday, stop reading newspapers for a couple of weeks and take&amp;nbsp;a break... I am... &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-7551239029037944880?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/7551239029037944880/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=7551239029037944880' title='14 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/7551239029037944880'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/7551239029037944880'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/08/chill-dude-it-is-not-ratings-downgrade.html' title='Chill, dude! It is not the ratings downgrade.. It is how you react to it!'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>14</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-8740028051792843208</id><published>2011-07-28T07:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-28T08:00:10.600-07:00</updated><title type='text'>A Sovereign Ratings Downgrade for the US? End of the world or bump in the road?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;It is a sign of the times that a blog such as mine, &amp;nbsp;dedicated to micro questions (on corporate finance and valuation), is bogged down on the macro question of sovereign default and its consequences. But there is no getting around the fact that corporations and investors will spend the next week focused on the circus in Washington DC and not on their core businesses. So, let's ask the key questions: What is it that investors fear will happen next week? And what if those fears become reality?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;1. Default: Perception versus Reality &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The US will not default next week or in the near future, even if there is no debt ceiling legislation passed by August 2. However, the damage has already have been done. The perception that an entity will not default is built not only on the resources controlled by the entity but on the faith that it will always find a way to use these resources to pay its bondholders. Once investors begin debating whether a borrower will default, the faith has been shaken and like Humpty Dumpty, it cannot be put together again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bottom line: Investors now perceive the US government as being capable of defaulting on their debt. That will not change, no matter what happens over the next week.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;2. Sovereign Ratings and Default&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't envy the ratings agency that is the first to downgrade the United States, since I am sure that abuse will be heaped on it.&amp;nbsp; But the critics miss a key point. Ratings agencies have more in common with politicians than you may realize: specifically, they are more likely to be followers than leaders. Investors have already starting building in a "default spread" (to cover the likelihood of default) into market prices. While backing this spread out of the treasury bond rate may be difficult to do, it is visible in the Credit Default Swap (CDS) market, where the price for insuring against default on the US treasury has risen over the last few months:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UH711zCd_SM/TjF5XLjkqzI/AAAAAAAAAC0/YOwlad3pY-Y/s1600/tbondvsCDS.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="271" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UH711zCd_SM/TjF5XLjkqzI/AAAAAAAAAC0/YOwlad3pY-Y/s400/tbondvsCDS.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There does seem to be a disconnect between the two markets, with the T.Bond rate decreasing as the default spread in the CDS market rises; you would expect the two to move together. There are a couple of interpretations. The first is that these markets attract different investors, with the nervous nellies (and default risk speculators) going into the CDS market and the oblivious rest holding treasury bonds. The second (and more likely explanation) is that there is information in both markets: the CDS market, for all its faults, is signaling that the default risk in the US Treasury has risen (by about 0.25% over the year) and the the treasury bond market is indicating slower economic growth (and thus lower real interest rates) in the future.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bottom line: The market has already downgraded the implicit sovereign rating for the United States. An explicit ratings downgrade will still have an effect on bond prices/rates but it will not be a surprise when it does happen. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;3. What next?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, let's assume that the worst comes to pass. Deadlock persists in the DC or is resolved in an unsatisfactory plan. Standard &amp;amp; Poors and/or Moody's downgrades the United States from AAA to AA. Then what?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Treasury bond rate: &lt;/u&gt;The expectation among many experts is that a downgrade will lead to a surge in treasury bond rates. Given my earlier assertion that a downgrade, if it does occur, will not be a complete surprise to many investors, I don't anticipate a surge in the treasury bond rate, or at least a sustainable one. To make my case, let me break down the treasury bond rate into three components:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;T. Bond rate = Expected Inflation + Expected riskfree real interest rate + Expected default spread&lt;br /&gt;If the treasury bond rate already includes a default spread, the day of the downgrade will be ugly for the bond market, with high volatility and big losses for impulsive traders, but I would not be surprised to see treasury bond rates return to pre-downgrade levels within a few weeks. If the ratings change is truly a complete surprise, then the treasury bond market will reflect substantial losses to bondholders on the day of the ratings change.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bottom line: My expectation is that the treasury bond rate will rise on the downgrade day but not by as much as experts seem to think.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Riskfree rate&lt;/u&gt;: If the treasury bond rate does have a default spread component, there is a longer term consequence. For decades, when valuing companies in US dollars, we have used the treasury bond rate as the riskfree rate. That practice will no longer hold and the riskfree rate in US dollars will have to be estimated:&lt;br /&gt;Riskfree rate in US dollars = Treasury bond rate - Default spread for the US government&lt;br /&gt;Thus, if the sovereign rating for the US drops to AA+ (with a default spread of 0.25%) and the treasury bond rate is 3.25%, the risk free rate in US dollars will be 3%:&lt;br /&gt;Risk free rate = 3.25% - 0.25% = 3%&lt;br /&gt;A few months ago I posted on a paper that I wrote last year titled &lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1648164"&gt;"What if nothing is risk free?"&lt;/a&gt;, a question that no longer sounds hypothetical, but I examine practical ways in which risk free rates can be estimated when sovereign issuers have default risk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bottom line: The US treasury bond rate will no longer be the risk free rate in US dollars.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Equity Risk Premium&lt;/u&gt;:&amp;nbsp; I have always argued that the &lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1769064"&gt;equity risk premium &lt;/a&gt;will increase as country risk increases. Using the US equity risk premium as my base for a mature equity market, I have augmented it by adding a &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/%7Eadamodar/pc/datasets/ctrypremjuly11.xls"&gt;country risk premium&lt;/a&gt;, which is a function of the country default spread, obtained from either the rating or the CDS market. A downgrade of the US will cause two changes: a rethinking of what comprises a mature market premium and the adding of a country risk premium for the US. The net effect will be a higher equity risk premium for the US. In fact, using the default spread of 0.25% as the basis, the equity risk premium for the US will rise about 0.38%.&lt;br /&gt;One measure that will capture the effects of increased country risk is the implied equity risk premium that I compute for the S&amp;amp;P 500 at the start of every month. That number has risen over the course of this year from 5.20% at the start of the year to 5.72% at the start of July. I will do my August update in a few days and it will be interesting to see how this number shifts over the rest of the year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Bottom line: As with the treasury bond rate, if markets have already priced in the higher default risk, the equity risk premium for the US will not jump substantially. If the downgrade is a complete surprise, there will be carnage in equity markets as the equity risk premium will jump,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;d. Costs of equity/capital for US firms&lt;/u&gt;: Even if&amp;nbsp;risk free rates don't rise significantly, the costs of equity and capital for US firms will increase because of rising equity risk premiums (for cost of equity) and the increase in the cost of debt for all firms (which will now bear some of the burden of sovereign default risk). One simple way to adjust the cost of debt is to add the sovereign default spread to the cost of debt for all firms; thus, with a 0.25% default spread for the US, the pre-tax cost of debt for a US company will rise by 0.25%.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To make this less abstract, let's compare the cost of capital for an average risk firm (Beta =1, Rating = BBB, Debt ratio = 30%) before and after a sovereign downgrade for the US. I have assumed for simplicity that the downgrade is a complete surprise and that the downgrade is to a AA+ and computed the effect on the cost of capital below:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kRp5jwJbloY/TjFfvyCBIUI/AAAAAAAAACw/7oH6PqgvjhE/s1600/sovratingpicture.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="326" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kRp5jwJbloY/TjFfvyCBIUI/AAAAAAAAACw/7oH6PqgvjhE/s400/sovratingpicture.jpg" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The cost of capital increases by 0.31%, which may not seem like much but will have a substantial effect on value. &amp;nbsp;Given my reasoning earlier, though, I don't think that the increase will be this high, since some or much of the change has already been priced in. You may disagree with the base assumptions and you can change them for yourself in the &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/%7Eadamodar/pc/USsovratingeffect.xlsx"&gt;spreadsheet that I used&lt;/a&gt;. Note also that the effect will vary across companies and be much higher for riskier firms, with higher betas and lower bond ratings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 338px;"&gt;&lt;colgroup&gt;&lt;col style="mso-width-alt: 6400; mso-width-source: userset; width: 150pt;" width="150"&gt;&lt;/col&gt;  &lt;col style="mso-width-alt: 2901; mso-width-source: userset; width: 68pt;" width="68"&gt;&lt;/col&gt;  &lt;col style="mso-width-alt: 5120; mso-width-source: userset; width: 120pt;" width="120"&gt;&lt;/col&gt;  &lt;/colgroup&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr height="15" style="height: 15.0pt;"&gt;   &lt;td class="xl64" height="15" style="height: 15.0pt; width: 150pt;" width="150"&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="xl65" style="border-left: none; width: 68pt;" width="68"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class="xl65" style="border-left: none; width: 120pt;" width="120"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;Be prepared for some anomalies. It is possible that a few US corporations may have smaller default spreads than the US government. Let's face it. If you were a bondholder buying bonds, you may feel a lot more secure buying bonds issued by Exxon Mobil than by the US government.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;d. Valuation and stock prices&lt;/u&gt;: Holding all else constant, higher costs of equity/capital will lower stock prices. An increase of 0.31% in the cost of capital, estimated in the section above, would decrease the value of a mature firm by approximately 5%. (The spreadsheet makes this estimate as well...) What could accelerate this decline, though, is the perception that the sovereign default risk will percolate into fiscal/monetary policy (i.e., the Federal Reserve will become more cautious about pumping in more money into the system and the government has to rein in spending/borrowing) leading to a further slowing down in economic growth and lower earnings. To the extent that the sovereign rating for the US is now in play (and could change), it will add to the volatility in stock prices.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Summing up.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;To act as if all of this drama will unfold on the date of the downgrade is giving far too much power and weight to the ratings agencies. This process has been going on for months (if not longer) and it is unclear how much the stock and bond markets have already incorporated into prices.&amp;nbsp;A ratings downgrade, if it does occur, will not be a surprise and it is not the cause of economic malaise but a symptom of unresolved economic problems: a government that spends far more than it takes in and has been doing so for a while, households that save too little and borrow too much and a loss of the competitive advantages that the US once enjoyed over the rest of the world. But here is the depressing follow up. Even if there is a debt-ceiling deal by August 2 and the ratings agencies don't downgrade the US, these underlying problems will remain and have to be dealt with, sooner rather than later.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-8740028051792843208?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/8740028051792843208/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=8740028051792843208' title='16 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8740028051792843208'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8740028051792843208'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/07/sovereign-ratings-downgrade-for-us-end.html' title='A Sovereign Ratings Downgrade for the US? End of the world or bump in the road?'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UH711zCd_SM/TjF5XLjkqzI/AAAAAAAAAC0/YOwlad3pY-Y/s72-c/tbondvsCDS.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>16</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-3746991518321865107</id><published>2011-07-24T16:24:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-24T16:24:38.564-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Stay Private vs Going Public: Changing landscape</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;For much of the last century, as public equity markets have grown, the choice for owners of private businesses that had growth potential was a simple one. Stay private, with limited access to equity capital or go public?&amp;nbsp;In making the decision, the owner weighed the pluses and minuses of a public offering. On the plus side, liquidity increases and you have access to far more capital, generally at a lower cost, since the investors buying your equity tend to be more diversified (and thus willing to overlook a portion of the risk in your company). On the minus side, you risk loss of control (if not right away, but at some point in time in the future; remember the cautionary tale of Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak being forced out of Apple in the 1980s) and you also have far more stringent corporate governance rules (think Sarbanes-Oxley) and information disclosure requirements.&amp;nbsp;The venture capital market eased the transition, by allowing small firms that were not ready to go public to raise equity from private investors, albeit at a higher cost than they would pay in public markets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To capture how the diversification status of the potential equity investor affects the cost of equity, I developed a scaled measure of beta a couple of decades ago, with the beta changing as a function of the diversification status:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U0pnb5AX8ww/TiyPQvrnTFI/AAAAAAAAACs/7FYRqtbwZJw/s1600/total+beta+picture.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U0pnb5AX8ww/TiyPQvrnTFI/AAAAAAAAACs/7FYRqtbwZJw/s1600/total+beta+picture.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus, a company with a market beta of 0.8 (to a diversified investor) can have a total beta of 2.4 (to a completely undiversified owner) and 1.6 (to a partially diversified venture capitalist). I have a &lt;a href="http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/totalbeta.html"&gt;data set that summarizes my estimates of market and total betas by sector&lt;/a&gt; for US companies that you can take a look at, if you are interested.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the last few years, there have been two developments that have muddied the waters and changed the dynamics of whether and when firms go public. The first is the &lt;a href="https://www.secondmarket.com/private-company"&gt;development of a private share market&lt;/a&gt;, where shares of private business can be traded by their owners, granting private businesses many of the advantages that they would have as public companies without much of the information disclosure/monitoring requirements that come with being public. Facebook is perhaps the most prominent example of a private business that has access to as much capital as almost any public company through this market.&amp;nbsp;The second is the insidious route adopted by some non-US (primarily Chinese) private businesses that have &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/business/global/reverse-mergers-give-chinese-firms-a-side-door-to-wall-st.html?_r=1&amp;amp;ref=business"&gt;bought small publicly traded US companies&lt;/a&gt; and used these companies as shell vehicles to gain access to public equity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In both cases, equity owners of these businesses are badly served, since they own portions of private businesses without the right to access information or influence management (that they at least in theory have with public companies).&amp;nbsp;In know that the obvious fix to both these problems is to regulate these options, either by &lt;a href="http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/05fce04a-769d-11e0-bd5d-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1T3nebI00"&gt;extending public company scrutiny to firms in the private share market&lt;/a&gt; or by barring trading in the market. However, the people who buy equity in Facebook in the private share market or a Chinese shell company are doing so voluntarily. Presumably, they are pricing in their concerns (or lack thereof) into what they pay and deserve to get whatever upside (or downside) they get from their investments. I will not envy them their returns but I will certainly not shed any tears for their losses, either. So, Facebook equity investors, I hope you make money on your investments.. but with Mark Zuckerberg as your lead partner, you should perhaps consult the &lt;a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/23/us-facebook-winklevoss-idUSTRE75L7NS20110623"&gt;Winkelvoss twins&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;on how well your interests will be served.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-3746991518321865107?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/3746991518321865107/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=3746991518321865107' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3746991518321865107'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3746991518321865107'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/07/stay-private-vs-going-public-changing.html' title='Stay Private vs Going Public: Changing landscape'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-U0pnb5AX8ww/TiyPQvrnTFI/AAAAAAAAACs/7FYRqtbwZJw/s72-c/total+beta+picture.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-8356246999100778562</id><published>2011-07-14T06:16:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-07-14T07:13:15.898-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Default and Bankruptcy: Black, white and shades of grey</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;The talk of default is all around us, as we watch Greece and Italy struggle with impending disaster and the fight over debt limits in the United States fills the airwaves. But what is default? What are the consequences? And given a choice, when is default the best option?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's start with the most basic question. What is default? Most people would view it as the failure to meet an obligated interest or principal payment. That may technically be true, but it does not capture the shades of grey that characterize default. In fact, the ratings agencies seem to have thrown the Greek situation into tumult by viewing the country as being in default, notwithstanding the legislative approval of the&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304760604576424961088825954.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection"&gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304760604576424961088825954.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The ratings agencies have a solid argument here, since default cannot be defined narrowly as failing to make an obligated debt payment. It has to be defined more broadly as lenders accepting a drop in value in their positions, in return for letting the borrower escape technical default; this could include loosening debt covenants or restructuring the debt to the borrower's advantage, without being compensated adequately for these changes. Thus, &amp;nbsp;if lenders let borrowers sell secured assets to raise cash, delay later payments, borrow more money on already secured assets, or lend them more money at below-market rates, they are accepting a reduction in value of their loans, in return for on-time payments. I will let you make the judgment on whether Greece is in default, but this story is telling:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.globalnews.ca/French+banks+readying+plan+help+Greece+rolling+over+cent+debt/5012495/story.html"&gt;http://www.globalnews.ca/French+banks+readying+plan+help+Greece+rolling+over+cent+debt/5012495/story.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In effect, French banks are re-lending money to Greece at the rates that they set when Greece was viewed as a much healthier borrower. That is the equivalent of lending at below market rates and no amount of dancing around the truth will change that basic fact. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why would lenders go along with this charade? In other words, why would lenders choose implicit default over explicit default? One reason is psychological. Explicit default casts as much light on lenders as it does on borrowers, since it reflects on the lenders' failure to assess credit risk adequately at the time of the original borrowing. Classifying a loan as being in default makes it impossible to deny that failure, while implicit default allows them to delay that recognition. The other is financial. Once a loan is classified in default, the rules on what follows are also more clear cut. Lenders have to write down the values of their loans to reflect the fact that default has occurred. This will have negative consequences for lending banks, which will take a hit to their regulatory capital holdings, and it will also lead to immediate losses for other investors who hold non-traded Greek debt in their portfolios. With implicit default, the rules are hazier and lenders can use the discretion built into the rules to put the best possible spin on the consequences.&amp;nbsp;But implicit default has its own costs for lenders. By putting off the day of reckoning, it allows them to continue with the practices that led to the problems in the first place. In fact, if the price of implicit default is that lenders have to bring in fresh funds to cover past mistakes, it will make the eventual blow-up much bigger. (The best analogy that I can think off is the experience of Japanese banks in the early 1990s. Rather than accept the fact that the real estate loans that they had made during the boom years of the eighties were in default, they chose the path of implicit default, thus letting the problems fester and grow for another decade)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What about borrowers? Is implicit default better than explicit default for them? While there may be more shame and immediate cost associated with the latter, it is sometimes better to default, accept failure and move on to making the fundamental changes that need to be made. With implicit default, both borrowers and lenders remain locked into a dance, where fundamental changes are delayed or deferred. It remains an open question whether Greece is better off with its austerity package (and implicit default) or whether it would have better served by defaulting on its debt (even though that may mean exiting the European Union and giving up on the Euro). I know that there are many economists and investors who view the latter as a doomsday option, noting that default by Greece would have led to default by Spain, Italy, Ireland an Portugal. Well, guess what? Greece managed to avoid explicit default but that did not stop Italy from moving into the danger zone this week. Greece's actions may have bought some time for the EU to fix its problem states, but unless the fundamentals change, it has not changed the underlying dynamics that created these problems in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Postscript:&lt;/u&gt; The very first comment brought up a point that I should have addressed in my post, i.e., whether Greece's actions constitute a credit event in the Credit Default Swap market. That is not an academic question. If it is classified as a credit event, the sellers of the CDS are liable to cover potential damages. If not, life goes on... For the moment, it does not look like it meets the credit event criteria, but this post does a much better job than I ever could discussing the issue:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/274195-greek-cds-restructuring-credit-event-and-repudiation"&gt;http://seekingalpha.com/article/274195-greek-cds-restructuring-credit-event-and-repudiation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It also raises an interesting problem with default. When different entities define default differently, there will be more game playing around default...&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-8356246999100778562?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/8356246999100778562/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=8356246999100778562' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8356246999100778562'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8356246999100778562'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/07/default-and-bankruptcy-black-white-and.html' title='Default and Bankruptcy: Black, white and shades of grey'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-4837182513923894965</id><published>2011-06-15T07:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-15T07:48:06.744-07:00</updated><title type='text'>From revenues to earnings: Operating, financing and capital expenses....</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;A few days ago, Groupon filed an S-1 statement with the Securities Exchange Commission, officially signaling its intent to do an initial public offering.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/06/02/groupon-ipo-its-here/"&gt;http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/06/02/groupon-ipo-its-here/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do know that there are valuation questions that will come up with the IPO but talking about them will lead me to repeat earlier points that I made about the Linkedin and Skype valuations: the value will depend upon revenue growth and potential operating margins. Instead, I want to focus on a claim that Groupon has made, that has opened up the company for some ridicule in the financial press. In 2010, Groupon generated revenues of $713 million and reported an operating loss of $420 million (see the S-1 filing link below):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1490281/000104746911005613/a2203913zs-1.htm"&gt;http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1490281/000104746911005613/a2203913zs-1.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pretty bad, right? But here's where it gets interesting. In the same S-1, Groupon claims that it will make money in 2011 using a different measure of operating income (which is calls &lt;b&gt;Adjusted CSOI&lt;/b&gt;: Consolidated Segment Operating Income). I am already suspicious, because the term carries two pieces that make me nervous - the word "adjusted" and a new acronym for earning. But what is Adjusted CSOI? According to Groupon, it is the income before expensing to acquire new subscribers is taken into account and since this expense amounted to about a third of overall operating expenses in 2010, removing it does wonders to profitability. It is this claim that has raised the ire of financial journalists and of some investors and their argument is encapsulated well in this blog post on Forbes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.forbes.com/ericsavitz/2011/06/02/deja-vu-groupons-bubble-1-0-approach-to-accounting/"&gt;http://blogs.forbes.com/ericsavitz/2011/06/02/deja-vu-groupons-bubble-1-0-approach-to-accounting&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://blogs.forbes.com/ericsavitz/2011/06/02/deja-vu-groupons-bubble-1-0-approach-to-accounting/"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Is Groupon breaking new ground in measuring profitability or is this playing with the accounting rules?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To answer this question, we need to go back to accounting first principles (which are often ignored by accounting rule writers, but that is a different story). In an ideal accounting world, the expenses incurred by a firm would be broken down into three groups:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Operating expense&lt;/u&gt;s: These are expenses incurred to generate revenues &lt;u&gt;only in the current period; there are no spillover benefits into future periods&lt;/u&gt;. Thus, the cost of labor and material incurred in making a widget will be part of operating expenses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Financial expenses&lt;/u&gt;: These are expenses associated with the use of borrowed money in the business. Thus, interest expenses on bank loans would be included here as should lease expenses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Capital expense&lt;/u&gt;s: These are expenses that generate benefits over multiple years. Classic examples would be the cost of building a factory or buying long-lived equipment.&lt;br /&gt;Assuming that you can classify expenses cleanly into these groups, here is how they play out in the financial statements. Operating expenses get netted out of revenues to get to operating income, financial expenses get netted out of operating income to get to taxable income and taxes get netted out of taxable income to get to net income. Capital expenses do not affect income in the year in which they are made but have two effects: the first is that they show up as assets on the balance sheet at the end of the year that they are incurred and then get amortized or depreciated over their useful life. The amortization or depreciation is also shown as an expense to get to operating income:&lt;br /&gt;Revenues&lt;br /&gt;- Operating Expenses&lt;br /&gt;- Depreciation/Amortization of Capital Expenses&lt;br /&gt;= Operating Income&lt;br /&gt;- Financial (interest) expenses&lt;br /&gt;= Taxable Income&lt;br /&gt;- Taxes&lt;br /&gt;= Net Income&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, here is the best possible spin on what Groupon is doing. The cost of acquiring new customers presumably creates benefits over many years, since once a customer is acquired, he or she continues to use Groupon for years (I told you that I was taking the best possible spin here). Using this rationale, you could conceivably argue that acquisition costs are capital expenses and should not be netted out to get to the operating income. However, here is why I am skeptical about whether this is being done to get a better measure of income (which would be noble) or for window dressing (which is not):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Back up the claim that customers, once acquired, stay on for a while&lt;/u&gt;: If you are going to capitalize acquisition costs, the onus is on you to show proof that acquired customers stay as customers (and actually buy products for many years). With strong competition from other online coupon based companies (like LivingSocial), it is entirely possible that customers once acquired, are fickle and move on... If that is the case, the acquisition cost has a very short amortizable life and begins to look more like an operating expense.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. If you are capitalizing acquisition costs, carry it through to its logical limit&lt;/u&gt;: This would require amortizing previous year's acquisition costs (which would in turn require an answer to (a), since the amortization will be over the customer life with the company). In other words, you cannot just remove acquisition costs (as Groupon has done) from your income statement, but you would have to replace that cost with an amortization cost.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Recognize that all of this reclassifying of expenses does not change your cash flow status&lt;/u&gt;: The bottom line is that Groupon has negative cash flows and those negative cash flows will get more negative over time, since the company will have to keep spending the money to acquire customers (to get the growth rate it would need to justify a $20 billion value...).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note that none of this is breaking ground. I have been making this point about R&amp;amp;D expenses at technology firms and advertising expenses at brand name companies for years. In fact, I have a paper on how we need to take a fresh look at companies with intangible assets:&lt;br /&gt;http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pdfiles/papers/intangibles.pdf&lt;br /&gt;This is also a chapter in my book, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Side-Valuation-Distressed-Businesses/dp/0137126891/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b"&gt;The Dark Side of Valuation (2nd edition, Wiley)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want to try your hand out at capitalizing acquisition (or brand name advertising or R&amp;amp;D) costs, try &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/R&amp;amp;DConv.xls"&gt;this spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The bottom line, though, is that from a valuation perspective, reclassifying acquisition costs is a mixed blessing. For growing companies like Groupon, it can make the earnings look more positive, but it will also increase the capital invested at these companies (because the acquisition costs will be capitalized). It can alter perspectives on whether the company is actually profitable and creating value: the key profitability number in the long term is not the operating margin but the return on invested capital and Groupon has just admitted that it invests a lot more capital than people realize in what it spends to acquire customers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other adjustments that Groupon makes to operating income that are more dubious. It is absurd to add back stock-based compensation (it is an operating expense...) &amp;nbsp;and we are taking the company at its word, when it breaks its marketing costs down into acquisition costs and regular marketing costs. What Groupon is doing is also part of a trend that I find disturbing, where analysts adopt half-baked approaches to dealing with costs like R&amp;amp;D and marketing by adding them back to EBITDA, leading to a proliferation of measures like EBITDAR (Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and R&amp;amp;D) and EBITDAM (Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and marketing). While this approach deals with a serious accounting problem (where capital expenses are being treated as operating expenses in some companies and thus skewing not just earnings but book values), it does so at a surface level. After all, if we are going to treat R&amp;amp;D and customer acquisition costs as capital expenditures, we should follow up by asking the key questions: How effective are they? Are they creating or destroying value?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Postscript&lt;/u&gt;: I forgot to mention that I hope that the tax authorities don't buy into Groupon's argument. If they did, acquisition costs would no longer be tax deductible; only the amortization would. As is often said, be careful what you wish for. You may get it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-4837182513923894965?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/4837182513923894965/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=4837182513923894965' title='22 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/4837182513923894965'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/4837182513923894965'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/06/from-revenues-to-earnings-operating.html' title='From revenues to earnings: Operating, financing and capital expenses....'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>22</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-3654050315706566268</id><published>2011-06-09T05:57:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-15T06:23:22.698-07:00</updated><title type='text'>There is an app for that....</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;I have a healthy respect for technology. While I don't see it as the cure for any of our problems in valuation, it has made life a lot easier in terms of mechanics. I still remember trying to value companies in the mid-eighties, where data had to be collected by hand (in libraries) and computers were primitive (I started with Visicalc on a Kaypro and it was just a glorified hand calculator, with limited features). I have tried to stay on top of evolving trends, though I have never been cutting edge on any dimension.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I watch my kids and colleagues increasingly abandon their computers for their smartphones and iPads, I have wondered whether I could make this transition. Thanks to Anant Sundaram, my good friend, who teaches valuation at Dartmouth College, the first step has been taken. Together, we developed a valuation app for the iPad that allows you to value a stock or a business.&amp;nbsp;A confession is in order. Neither Anant nor I have the technological capability to write apps: it is a lot more complicated than it looks. We owe aa great deal to Xiandong Ren, a graduate of the Computer Science department at Dartmouth College, who schooled us on the basics and wrote the code for the app.&amp;nbsp;Initially, we wanted to give the app the moniker of "iValue" but as is common in this space, some one else beat us to that name by a few weeks. So, we used our fall back name for the app: uValue and it is now available on the Apple iTunes store:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/uvalue/id440046276"&gt;http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/uvalue/id440046276&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;uValue is a valuation app, with surprising versatility (or at least, we think so). There are three basic models - a conventional cost of capital DCF model, an Adjusted Present Value (APV) model and a dividend discount model. For the cost of capital and APV models, we have detailed versions, where you are given full control over all of the input levers, and simple versions, where we set many of the input levers to safe defaults. In the near future, we hope to add a relative valuation (multiples and comparables) module as well as a financial tools module. Embedded in the app is a short book on valuation (called the uValue Companion) that leads you through the basics of which model to use in a specific context and the fundamentals of that model as well as data sets on industry averages on key input variables (margins, returns, betas, cost of capital etc.).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While we cannot be objective about the app's capabilities, here is what we see as its pluses and minuses right now. On the minus side:&lt;br /&gt;a. The app is available only for the iPad right now. The output is too intensive for a Smartphone screen and we just don't have the capacity or energy or time (right now) to write the code to allow it work on Android pads.&lt;br /&gt;b. It is a young app. We have already been alerted to a couple of errors in the app (the simple APV has a glitch in the expected bankruptcy cost component, for instance) that we will fix in the next update (in the next couple of weeks). This website for the app will keep you updated on errors as you find them (and we fix them):&lt;br /&gt;http://uvalueapp.com&lt;br /&gt;c. It does incorporate our "points of view" on DCF valuation, which may not map on to your points of view on the same. Just to make you feel better, even Anant and I have differences on individual components (like what to use for the equity risk premium) and have been open in laying them out in the app.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the plus slide, we have tried the app out on all kinds of companies: young, growth companies (like Linkedin), mature companies, money losing companies, commodity companies, financial service companies, and it seems to work for all of them. Best of all, check out the price for the app. You will see why we feel absolutely secure in our "money back" guarantee... &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-3654050315706566268?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/3654050315706566268/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=3654050315706566268' title='17 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3654050315706566268'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3654050315706566268'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/06/there-is-app-for-that.html' title='There is an app for that....'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>17</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-6317740017042211865</id><published>2011-06-08T08:15:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-06-08T09:24:34.621-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Thoughts on intrinsic value</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;I know this post will strike some of you as splitting hairs and an abstraction but it is a topic that fascinates me. A few weeks ago, I got an email asking a very simple question: How do you estimate the "intrinsic" value of gold? This, of course, raised two key questions:&lt;br /&gt;a. What is intrinsic value?&lt;br /&gt;b. Does every asset have an intrinsic value?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the first question, here is my definition of intrinsic value. It is the value that you would attach to an asset, based upon its fundamentals: cash flows, expected growth and risk. The essence of intrinsic value is that you can estimate it in a vacuum for a specific asset, without any information on how the market is pricing other assets (though it does certainly help to have that information). At its core, if you stay true to principles, a discounted cash flow model is an intrinsic valuation model, because you are valuing an asset based upon its expected cash flows, adjusted for risk. Even a book value approach is an intrinsic valuation approach, where you are assuming that the accountant's estimate of what fixed and current assets are worth is the true value of a business.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This definition then answers the second question. Only assets that are expected to generate cash flows can have intrinsic values. Thus, a bond (coupons), a stock (dividends), a business (operating cash flows) or commercial real estate (net rental income) all have intrinsic values, though computing those values can be easier for some assets than others. At the other extreme, fine art and baseball cards do not have intrinsic value, since they generate no cash flows (though they may generate a more amorphous utility for their owners) and value, in a sense, is in entirely in the eye of the beholder. Residential real estate is closer to the latter than the former and estimating the intrinsic value of your house is an exercise in futility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, how do people value assets where intrinsic value cannot be estimated? They look at what other people are paying for similar or comparable assets: i.e., they use relative valuation. Thus, an auction house sets a value for your Picasso, based on what other Picassos have sold for in the recent past, adjusted for differences (which is where the experts come in). The realtor sets the price for residential real estate, based on what other residences in the neighborhood have sold for, adjusted for differences again. In fact, let's face it: this is the way even assets that have intrinsic value are evaluated for the most part. Thus, the investment banker who takes Groupon public may go through the process of providing a discounted cash flow model to back up the valuation, but the pricing of the IPO will be determined largely by the euphoric reception that Linkedin got a few weeks ago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't intend this to come across as snobbish, but I think we need to clarify terms. Most people who claim to be valuation specialists, experts or appraisers are really pricing specialists, experts and appraisers. In other words, what separates them in terms of skills is in how good they are in finding comparable assets and adjusting for differences across assets. In fact, I have a counter question, when I am asked the question of what the value of a business or stock is: Do you want a value for your business or a price for your business? The answers can be very different.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In closing, though, let me try to answer the question that triggered this post: what is the "intrinsic value" of gold? In my view, gold does not have an intrinsic value but it does have a relative value. For centuries, gold (because of its durability and relative scarcity) has been an alternative to financial assets (that are tied to paper currency). Unlike the gold standard days, where the linkage between paper currency and gold was explicit, the value of paper currency rests entirely on trust in central banks and governments. As a consequence, the price of gold has varied inversely with the degree of trust that we have in these authorities. Though not a perfect indicator, gold prices have surged when a subset of investors have lost that faith, i.e., they fear that the currency is being debased (inflation) or systematic government failures. What makes this monent in economic history disquieting is that we are getting discordant signals from the market: the low interest rates on treasuries (US, German and Japanese) suggests that investors think expected inflation will be low in the future whereas higher prices for precious metals (gold, silver) give support to the argument that investors (or at least a subset of them) believe the opposite. One of these two groups will be wrong and I would not want to be in that group, when there is a final reckoning.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-6317740017042211865?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/6317740017042211865/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=6317740017042211865' title='25 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/6317740017042211865'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/6317740017042211865'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/06/thoughts-on-intrinsic-value.html' title='Thoughts on intrinsic value'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>25</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-1310293662869136257</id><published>2011-05-20T08:25:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-20T08:25:32.174-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Dual share structure: The Google model spreads</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Google rewrote the book for initial public offerings in two ways. One is that they bypassed the traditional investment banking syndicate for an auction (which is a good development) and the other is that they were unapologetic about the fact that they had two classes of shares and that the founders would hold on to the shares with the disproportionately large voting rights. While shares with different voting rights are par for the course in many parts of the world (Latin America, for instance), their use in the United States was limited to a few sectors; publishing and media companies such as the New York Times and the Washington Post have used the structure to allow the founding families to control these companies, with relatively small percentages of the overall equity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two factors played a role in containing dual class shares: the first was that, for decades, the New York Stock Exchange barred shares with different voting rights from getting listed on the exchange and the second was the fear of an adverse reaction from investors. Google was unfazed by either concern. It listed on the NASDAQ and institutional investors were so eager to hold the stock that they seemed to overlook the voting share structure (or at least not price it in).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what's the big deal with voting rights? Voting rights matter because they allow stockholders to have a say in who runs the company and how it is run. It is true that most stockholders don't use these rights and prefer to vote with their feet, but the voting power does come into use, especially at badly managed companies, where a challenge is mounted on management either from within (activist stockholders) or from without (hostile acquisitions). The argument I have heard from institutional investors for their benign neglect of different voting share classes at Google is that the company is well managed and that control is therefore worth little or nothing. There is a kernel of truth to their statement: the expected value of control (and voting rights) is greater in badly managed companies than in well managed ones. However, if you are an investor for the long term, you have to worry about whether managers who are perceived as good managers today could be perceived otherwise in a few years. (A decade ago, Cisco would have been ranked among the best managed companies in the world. Today, its management is under assault after ten years of bad acquisitions and under performance).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How does this play out in valuation? Once you have valued the aggregate equity in a company, you have to estimate the value of equity per share. When shares all have the same voting &amp;amp; dividend rights, you can divide by the total number of shares outstanding. When they don't, though, you may have to allocate the equity value differently to different share classes. Generally speaking, voting shares should trade at a premium over non-voting shares, but that premium should be larger in poorly managed firms than in well-managed firms. How much larger? I have a &lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=837405"&gt;paper on the topic&lt;/a&gt; that does try to come up with a specific premium for voting shares.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The trigger for this post was the &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/eqegs/linkedin.xls"&gt;Linkedin valuation that I did yesterday&lt;/a&gt;. I valued the equity of the company at approximately $ 2 billion, but I was unforgivably sloppy about getting the per share value. I used the 43.31 million shares that Yahoo! Finance listed as shares outstanding and I should have known better. Checking the prospectus for Linkedin, here is what I see:&lt;br /&gt;* 7.8 million class A shares (all of the shares offered in the IPO are class A shares)&lt;br /&gt;* 86.7 million class B shares (which have ten times the voting rights of class A shares)&lt;br /&gt;Dividing the value of equity by 94.5 million shares yields a value per share of $21.51/share, but even that may be an over estimate. If we assume that the voting shares trade at a premium of 5% over the non-voting shares (the 5% is the average premium for voting over non-voting shares in US companies), the value per share for the non-voting shares drops $ 20.57:&lt;br /&gt;Value per non-voting share = $2,033 million (7.8 + 1.05*86.7) = $20.57&lt;br /&gt;Reading the prospectus, though, things get worse. Linked in notes that it has options outstanding on roughly 17 million shares, with exercise prices ranging from $6 to $23. Needless to say, all those options are deep in-the-money now and while I don't have information on vesting, it behooves us to act as if these options will be exercised. Using an average exercise price of $15, the value per share drops further to about $20.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Bottom line&lt;/u&gt;: Getting from value of equity to value per share gets progressively more difficult as you add shares with different voting rights and outstanding options to the mix.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-1310293662869136257?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/1310293662869136257/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=1310293662869136257' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1310293662869136257'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1310293662869136257'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/05/dual-share-structure-google-model.html' title='Dual share structure: The Google model spreads'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-5937410171402457301</id><published>2011-05-19T08:25:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-19T18:22:36.462-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Valuing young growth companies: A postscript on Linkedin</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;So, that was quite an opening for Linkedin.. The stock opened in the mid-80s, almost double the offer price. I know that some of you have used the model that I attached to my last post to value Linkedin on your own and that was exactly my point. None of us has a crystal ball that shows us the future and your estimates are as good as mine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, since we are on the topic of young growth companies, here is what I see in the base year numbers for Linkedin, as contrasted with Skype:&lt;br /&gt;a. Linkedin is at an earlier stage in the life cycle that Skype. It revenue growth is more explosive (100% growth last year: Revenues grew from $120 million in 2009 to $243 million in 2010) than Skype's revenue growth in 2010 (20%).&lt;br /&gt;b. Linkedin is already profitable. It reported pre-tax operating income of about $20 million in 2010. In contrast, Skype is still losing money.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, here's where the subjective component comes into play in the forecasts:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Revenue growth&lt;/u&gt;: You may disagree with me on this one but I see a smaller potential market for Linkedin than I do for Skype. While at least in theory, Skype could compete for the much larger wireless telecom market, Linkedin has a narrower focus. To provide perspective, Yahoo's total revenues in 2010 were $ 6 billion and I have a tough time seeing Linkedin generate revenues as large, even ten years from now.&lt;br /&gt;My projection: 50% compounded revenue growth for the next 5 years, scaling down to 3.5% in stable growth. Revenues in 2021 will be about $ 5 billion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Operating margins&lt;/u&gt;: I see margins falling somewhere in the middle of the range for companies in this space: Google at the top end and Yahoo towards the bottom. Competition in this space is much fiercer and the barriers to entry seem small.&lt;br /&gt;My projection: Pre-tax operating margin of 15% in 2021, rising from the current margin of 8.23%.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Survival&lt;/u&gt;: The company has little debt ($2 million), enough cash on the balance sheet ($92 million) with more coming in from the IPO.&lt;br /&gt;My projection: I am going to assume that there is a 100% chance that the firm will survive, though I am not sure how successful it will be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The valuation, with these inputs, yields a value per share of $47 and I think that that number is at the upper end of the spectrum. &lt;s&gt;So, the original offer price of $43 does not sound unreasonable&lt;/s&gt;... As for the current price in the mid-80s, I am glad I don't have it in my portfolio. (Update: It gets worse. There are two classes of shares outstanding and if you incorporate both, the value per share that I estimate drops into the twenties.. I have updated the spreadsheet as well..)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As with the Skype valuation, here is my &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/%7Eadamodar/pc/eqegs/linkedin.xls"&gt;Linkedin spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt;. Make your own best estimates.... and good luck... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-5937410171402457301?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/5937410171402457301/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=5937410171402457301' title='23 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5937410171402457301'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5937410171402457301'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/05/valuing-young-growth-companies.html' title='Valuing young growth companies: A postscript on Linkedin'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>23</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-3326898619945705320</id><published>2011-05-18T07:25:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-18T07:51:34.295-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Is Skype worth $8.5 billion? An exercise in valuing young, growth companies</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Last week, Microsoft &lt;a href="http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/05/wsj-microsoft-to-buy-skype-for-7bn-rest-of-world-for-real.ars"&gt;announced&lt;/a&gt; that it would buy Skype for $8.5 billion. The reaction was fast, furious and very predictable. First, there was the search for reasons for the deal and &lt;a href="http://gigaom.com/2011/05/09/why-microsoft-is-buying-skype-for-8-billion/"&gt;technology mavens listed a few&lt;/a&gt;. Second, there was the r&lt;a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/10/us-skype-microsoft-analysis-idUSTRE7495OM20110510"&gt;eaction from investors and analysts&lt;/a&gt;, which was generally not very positive. Third, it was noted that Bill Gates, the face of Microsoft for so long, was &lt;a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/05/17/bill-gates-championed-the-microsoft-skype-deal/"&gt;strongly in favor of the deal&lt;/a&gt; (thus providing cover for Steve Ballmer).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ultimately, though, the discussion of the deal was lacking in one key respect: Is Skype worth $8.5 billion to Microsoft? A few of the analysts noted that the price paid was roughly ten times Skype's revenues in 2010, an undoubtedly rich price, but by itself proving nothing. After all, if you had been able to buy into Google at ten times revenues in 2003, you would be rich now. A great deal of attention was paid to whether Skype was the right company for Microsoft to buy and the strategic/synergistic fit of the two companies. &amp;nbsp;It has always been my contention with acquisitions that it is not the strategic fit or synergistic stories that make the difference between a good deal and a bad one, but whether you buy a company at the right price. Put in more direct terms, buying a company that is a poor strategic fit at a low price is vastly preferable to buying a company that fits like a glove at the wrong price.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, let's get back to valuation basics. What is the value of Skype? The question is rendered more difficult to answer because Skype is a private business and we know little about the insides of the financial statements. It is widely reported, though, that Skype had operating losses of $7 million on revenues of $ 860 million in 2010. Taking those numbers as a base, I tried to value Skype, making what I thought were very optimistic assumptions:&lt;br /&gt;- Continued revenue growth of 20% (which was what they had last year) for the next 5 years and a gradual tapering down of growth to 3% in ten years.&lt;br /&gt;- A surge in pre-tax operating margins to 30% over the next ten years; this margin is at the very upper end of the technology spectrum (where companies like Google reside).&lt;br /&gt;- A decline in the cost of capital from 12% now (reflecting the uncertainty associated with young, growth businesses) to a cost of capital of a mature company in ten years&lt;br /&gt;With those assumptions, I estimated a value of $ 3.8 billion for Skype. It is entirely possible, however, that I am wrong on my key assumptions - revenue growth rates and target margins. In fact, changing those base inputs gives me the following table:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RNviDnKrhNQ/TdPc6VcOtNI/AAAAAAAAACk/-NXDdNkG4IY/s1600/skypetable.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="76" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RNviDnKrhNQ/TdPc6VcOtNI/AAAAAAAAACk/-NXDdNkG4IY/s320/skypetable.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is it possible that Skype is worth more than $8.5 billion? Sure, if you can deliver revenue growth higher than 35% and a pre-tax operating margin of 30%. Is it probable? I don't think so.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The value drivers for Skype - revenue growth, target pre-tax operating margin and survival - are generally the constants you worry about with young, growth companies. In the &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Little-Book-Valuation-Company-Profits/dp/1118004779"&gt;Little Book of Valuation&lt;/a&gt;, in the chapter on valuing young growth companies, I argue that these value drivers also should give you indicators of value plays in young, growth companies. Thus, when investing in a young, growth company (Tesla Motors, Linkedin, Facebook etc.), here are some of the indicators you would look at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Size of potential market&lt;/u&gt;: Since high revenue growth is easier to pull off, when the market is large, you want to invest in companies that are entering large potential markets rather than narrower, specialized markets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Competitive barriers&lt;/u&gt;: For margins to improve over time, you need space to grow and protection from intense competition. This can come from patents (for a young, biotechnology company), a technological advantage, a brand name or the sheer ineptitude of established competitors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Survival skills&lt;/u&gt;: Survival boils down to two types of resources: financial and personnel. Young, growth companies with access to capital, little or no debt and large cash balances have a much better chance of surviving than companies without those characteristics. In addition, companies that are dependent on a key person or personnel with no back-up are much more at risk than companies that have a good bench.&lt;br /&gt;So, take your favorite young, growth company for a qualitative spin around this track and see if it passes the tests.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You can &lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/eqegs/skypevaln.xls"&gt;download the spreadsheet&lt;/a&gt; that I used for the valuation of Skype and play with the revenue growth and operating margin numbers. You can also use the spreadsheet to value any other young, growth company. As you do these valuations, recognize that uncertainty is the name of the game and that you are making estimates for the future. You will be wrong, but so will everyone else, and at least you are trying.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-3326898619945705320?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/3326898619945705320/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=3326898619945705320' title='22 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3326898619945705320'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3326898619945705320'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/05/is-skype-worth-85-billion-exercise-in.html' title='Is Skype worth $8.5 billion? An exercise in valuing young, growth companies'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RNviDnKrhNQ/TdPc6VcOtNI/AAAAAAAAACk/-NXDdNkG4IY/s72-c/skypetable.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>22</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-3562845790505822013</id><published>2011-05-03T12:18:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-05-03T17:54:52.459-07:00</updated><title type='text'>The Little Book of Valuation</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;I don't like to use this blog as a publicity front, but my newest book just hit the bookstores. It is part of Wiley's Little Book series and it is titled "The Little Book of Valuation".&amp;nbsp;My motivation for writing the book was simple. While I have three books on valuation - Investment Valuation, Damodaran on Valuation and The Dark Side of Valuation", they are all written for valuation practitioners. They are dense, not easy to read and require work to put into practice. I have always wanted to write a book for investors, many of seem to believe that valuation is far too complex for them to handle. That view makes them easy prey for valuation experts and analysts, who use a mixture of bombast, buzz words and numbers to intimidate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I started to write the book, I set myself two objectives. The first was to not short change readers, by assuming that they were not skilled enough to do valuation. I think valuation is fundamentally simple but that we choose to layer complexities on it. So, I wanted to provide investors with the tools to do a full fledged valuation of any type of company - young or old, mature or growth, cyclical or commodity. The second was to cut through the details of valuation models and identify the value drivers for any company. Even in the most complex valuation models, the value of a stock is determined by one or two key inputs. Knowing what those inputs are and how to estimate them is 90% of valuation. More importantly, if you know the drivers of value, you can create investment strategies that are built around those drivers, even if you choose not to do a full-fledged valuation. If you get a chance to take a look at the book, you will notice that the chapters are structured around different types of companies and that each chapter is centered around identifying the "value drivers" for that type of company and the "value plays" that emerge from these drivers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since I did write the book, I cannot give you an unbiased assessment of how well I did in accomplishing my objectives. I hope you do get a chance to browse through the book and I really hope that you not only find it useful but an easy read. If you are interested in getting the book, here is the Amazon link:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Little-Book-Valuation-Company-Profit/dp/1118004779/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1"&gt;http://www.amazon.com/Little-Book-Valuation-Company-Profit/dp/1118004779/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To support the book, I have put together spreadsheets and other material in a website for the book. You can visit it by &lt;a href="http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/littlebook.htm"&gt;clicking here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-3562845790505822013?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/3562845790505822013/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=3562845790505822013' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3562845790505822013'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3562845790505822013'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/05/little-book-of-valuation.html' title='The Little Book of Valuation'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-1174940019709852941</id><published>2011-04-30T09:10:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-30T09:32:14.206-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Alternatives to the CAPM: Wrapping up</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Even as we agree to disagree about the usefulness or lack of the same of CAPM betas, let us reach consensus on a fundamental fact. To ignore risk in investments is foolhardy and not all investments are equally risky. Thus, no matter what investment strategy you adopt, you have to develop your own devices for measuring and controlling for risk. In making your choice, consider the following:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Explicit versus implicit&lt;/u&gt;: I know plenty of analysts who steer away from discounted cash flow valuation and use relative valuation (multiples and comparable firms) because they are uncomfortable with measuring risk explicitly. However, what they fail to recognize is that they are implicitly making a risk adjustment. How? When you compare PE ratios across banks and suggest that the bank with lowest PE ratio is cheapest, you are implicitly assuming that banks are all equally risky. Similarly, when you tell me to buy a technology firm because it trades at a PEG ratio lower than the PEG ratio for the technology sector, you are assuming that the firm has the same risk as other companies in the sector. The danger with implicit assumptions is that you can be lulled into a false sense of complacency, even as circumstances change. After all, does it make sense to assume that Citigroup and Wells Fargo, both large money center banks, are equally risky? Or that Adobe and Microsoft, both software firms, have the same risk exposure?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Quantitative versus qualitative&lt;/u&gt;: I am constantly accused of being too number oriented and not looking at qualitative factors enough. Perhaps, but I think the true test of whether you can do valuation is whether you can take the stories that you hear about companies and convert them into numbers for the future. Thus, if your story is that a company has loyal customers, I would expect to see the evidence in stable revenues and lots of repeat customers; as a result, the cash flows for the company will be higher and less risky. After all, at the end of the process, your dividends are not paid with qualitative dollars but with quantitative ones.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Simple versus complicated&lt;/u&gt;: Another mantra that I push is that less is more and to keep things simple. In fact, one reason that I stay with the CAPM is that it is a simple model at its core and I am reluctant to abandon it for more complex models, until I am given convincing evidence that these models work better.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, find your own way of adjusting for risk in valuation but refine it and question it constantly. The best feedback you get will be from your investment mistakes, since they give you indicators of the risks you missed on your original assessment. As for me, I remain wedded to the fundamental principle that value is affected by risk but not to any risk and return model, which to mean just remains a means to an end.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The series on alternatives to the CAPM:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-1-relative.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 1: Relative Risk Measures&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-2-proxy.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 2: Proxy Models &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-3-connecting.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 3: Connecting cost of equity to cost of debt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-4-market.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 4: Market-implied costs of equity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-5-risk-adjusting.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 5: Risk adjusting the cash flows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-wrapping-up.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Wrapping up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-1174940019709852941?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/1174940019709852941/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=1174940019709852941' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1174940019709852941'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1174940019709852941'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-wrapping-up.html' title='Alternatives to the CAPM: Wrapping up'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-5256271432873770725</id><published>2011-04-30T08:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-30T09:34:17.789-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 5. Risk Adjusting the cash flows</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;In the last four posts, I laid our alternatives to the CAPM beta, but all of them were structured around adjusting the discount rate for risk. Having made this pitch many times in the past, I know that there are some of you who wonder why I don't risk adjust the cash flows instead of risk adjusting the discount rate. The answer to that question, though, depends on what you mean by risk adjusting the cash flows. For the most part, here is what the proponents of this approach seem to mean. They will bring in the possibility of bad scenarios (and the outcomes from these scenarios) into the expected cash flows and thus risk adjust them. As I will argue below, that is not risk adjustment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is true that there are two ways in which you can adjust discounted cash flow value for risk. One is to estimate expected cash flows across all scenarios, essentially multiplying the probability of each scenario by the likelihood of that scenario unfolding, and then to discount those expected cash flows using a risk adjusted discount rate. The other is to take the expected cash flows and replace them with "certainty equivalent" cash flows and discounting those certainty equivalent cash flows at the riskfree rate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what are certainty equivalent cash flows? To illustrate, let me provide a simple example. Assume that you have an investment, where there are two scenarios: a good scenario, where you make $ 80 instantly and a bad one, where you lose $ 20 instantly. Assume also that the likelihood of each scenario occurring is 50%. The expected cash flow on this investment is $30 (0.50*$80 + 0.50*- $20). A risk neutral investor would be willing to pay $ 30 for this investment but a risk averse investor would not. He would pay less than $ 30, with how much less depending upon how risk averse he was. The amount he would be willing to pay would be the certainty equivalent cash flow.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Applying this concept to more complicated investments is generally difficult because there are essentially a very large number of scenarios and estimating cash flows under each one is difficult to do. Once the expected cash flow is computed, converting it into a certainty equivalent is just as complicated. There is one practical solution, which is to take the expected cash flow and discount it back at just the risk premium component of your discount rate. Thus, if your expected cash flow in one year is $ 100 million, and your risk adjusted discount rate is 9% (with the risk free rate of 4%), the certainty equivalent for this cash flow would be:&lt;br /&gt;Risk premium component of discount rate = (1.09/1.04)-1 = 4.81% &lt;br /&gt;Certainty equivalent cash flow in year 1 = $ 100/ 1.0481 = $95.41&lt;br /&gt;Value today = Certainty equivalent CF/ (1 + riskfree rate) = $95.41/1.04 = $91.74&lt;br /&gt;Note, though, that you would get exactly the same answer using the risk adjusted discount rate approach:&lt;br /&gt;Value today = Expected CF/ (1 + risk adjusted discount rate) = 100/1.09 = $91.74&lt;br /&gt;Put differently, unless you have a nifty way of adjusting expected cash flows for risk that does not use risk premiums that you have already computed for your discount rates, there is nothing gained in this exercise.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is two practical approaches to certainty equivalent cash flows that I have seen used by some value investors. In the first, you consider only those cash flows from a business that are "safe" and that you can count on, when you do valuation. If you do so, and you are correct in your assessment, you don't have to risk adjust the cash flows. The next time you are told that Buffett does not risk adjust his valuations, take a look at whether this is in fact what he is doing. The second variant is an interesting twist on dividends and a throw back to Ben Graham. To the extent that companies are reluctant to cut dividends, once they initiate them, it can be argued that the dividends paid by a company reflects its view of how much of its earnings are certain. Thus, a firm that is very uncertain about future earnings may pay only 20% of its earnings as dividends whereas one that is more certain will 80% of its earnings. An investor who buys stocks, based upon their dividends, thus has less need to worry about risk adjusting those numbers. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Bottom line&lt;/u&gt;. There are no short cuts in risk adjustment. It is no easier (and often more difficult) to adjust expected cash flows for risk than it is to adjust discount rates for risk. If you do use one of the short cuts - counting only safe cash flows or just dividends - recognize when these approaches will fail you (as they inevitably will) and protect yourself against those consequences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The series on alternatives to the CAPM&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-1-relative.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 1: Relative Risk Measures&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-2-proxy.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 2: Proxy Models &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-3-connecting.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 3: Connecting cost of equity to cost of debt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-4-market.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 4: Market-implied costs of equity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-5-risk-adjusting.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 5: Risk adjusting the cash flows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-wrapping-up.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Wrapping up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-5256271432873770725?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/5256271432873770725/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=5256271432873770725' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5256271432873770725'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5256271432873770725'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-5-risk-adjusting.html' title='Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 5. Risk Adjusting the cash flows'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-4617576367289274655</id><published>2011-04-30T07:54:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-30T09:34:01.251-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 4: Market-Implied cost of equity</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;As you can see from each of the alternatives laid out in the previous three parts, there are assumptions and models underlying each alternative that can make users uncomfortable. So, what if you want to estimate a model-free cost of equity? There is a choice, but it comes with a catch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To see the choice, assume that you have a stock that has an expected annual dividend of $3/share next year, with growth at 4% a year and that the stock trades at $60. Using a very simple dividend discount model, you can back out the cost of equity for this company from the existing stock price:&lt;br /&gt;Value of stock&amp;nbsp; = Dividends next year / (Cost of equity - growth rate)&lt;br /&gt;$ 60&amp;nbsp; = $3.00/ (Cost of equity -4%)&lt;br /&gt;Cost of equity = 9%&lt;br /&gt;The mechanics of computing implied cost of equity become messier as you go from dividends to estimated cash flows and from stable growth models to high growth models, but the principle remains the same. You can use the current stock price and solve for the cost of equity. For those of you who use Excel, the goal seek function or solver work very well at doing this job, even in the most complicated valuations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This cost of equity is a market-implied cost of equity. If you are in  corporate finance and need a cost of equity to use in your investment  decisions, it would suffice. If you were required to value this company,  though, using this cost of equity to value the stock would be pointless  since you would arrive at a value of $ 60 and the not-surprising  conclusion that the stock is fairly priced.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what point is there to computing an implied cost of equity? I see three possibilities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;One is to use a conventional cost of equity in the valuation and to compare the market-implied cost of equity to the conventional one to see how much "margin for error" you have in your estimate. Thus, if you find your stock to be undervalued, with an 8% cost of equity, but the implied cost of equity is 8.5%, you may very well decide not to buy the stock because your margin for error is too narrow; with an implied cost of equity of 14%, you may be more comfortable buying the stock. Think of it as a marriage of discounted cash flow valuation with a margin of safety.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The second is to compute a market-implied cost of equity for an entire sector sector and to use this cost as the cost of equity for all companies in that sector. Thus, I could compute the implied cost of equity for all banks of 9%, using an index of banking stocks and expected aggregate dividends on that index.&amp;nbsp; I could then use that 9% cost of equity for any bank that I had to value. This, in effect, brings discounted cash flow valuation closer to relative valuation; after all, when we compare price to book ratios across banks, we are assuming that they all have the same risk (and costs of equity).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The third is to compute the market-implied cost of equity for the same company each period for a number of periods and to use that average as the cost of equity when valuing the company now. You are, in effect, assuming that the market prices your stock correctly over time but can be wrong in any given time period.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;I use traditional models of risk and return to estimate costs of equity in valuation but I use market-implied costs of equity extensively. As those of you who track my equity risk premium estimates and posts know, I compute an implied equity risk premium for the S&amp;amp;P 500 every month, using exactly the approach described above (though I augment dividends with buybacks). When I value individual companies, I do compare my estimates of cost of equity with the market-implied estimates. Finally, when I am concerned that the beta for a firm is not reflecting its underlying risk, because the sector itself has changed, I compute a market-implied cost of equity for the sector. For instance, after the banking crisis in 2008, I felt that using the beta for a bank or even a sector-average beta to estimate the cost of equity made no sense, since much of the data used in the estimates reflected pre-crisis returns. Consequently, I used the S&amp;amp;P banking index to back out an implied cost of equity (which yielded an estimate almost 4% higher than the CAPM estimate) and used it in my valuations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The series on alternatives to the CAPM&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-1-relative.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 1: Relative Risk Measures&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-2-proxy.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 2: Proxy Models &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-3-connecting.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 3: Connecting cost of equity to cost of debt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-4-market.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 4: Market-implied costs of equity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-5-risk-adjusting.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 5: Risk adjusting the cash flows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-wrapping-up.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Wrapping up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-4617576367289274655?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/4617576367289274655/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=4617576367289274655' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/4617576367289274655'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/4617576367289274655'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-4-market.html' title='Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 4: Market-Implied cost of equity'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-2725074460411641921</id><published>2011-04-30T07:28:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-30T09:33:45.215-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 3: Connecting cost of debt to cost of equity</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Analysts have generally had an easier time estimating the cost of debt than the cost of equity, for any given firm, for a simple reason. When banks lend money to a firm, the cost of debt is explicit at least at the time of borrowing and takes the form of an interest rate. While it is true that this stated interest rate may not be a good measure of cost of debt later in the loan life, the cost of debt for firms with publicly traded bonds outstanding can be computed as the yield to maturity (an observable and updated number) on those bonds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Armed with this insight, there are some who suggest that the cost of equity for a firm can be estimated, relative to its cost of debt. Their intuition goes as follows. If the pre-tax cost of debt for a firm is 8% its cost of equity should be higher. But how much higher? One approach that has been developed is to estimate the standard deviation in bond and stock returns for a company; both numbers should be available if both instruments are traded. The cost of equity then can be written as follows:&lt;br /&gt;Cost of equity = Cost of debt (Standard deviation of equity/ Standard deviation of bond)&lt;br /&gt;Thus, in the example above, if the standard deviation in stock prices is 30% and the standard deviation in bond prices is only 20%, the cost of equity will be 12%.&lt;br /&gt;Cost of equity = 8% (30/20) = 12%&lt;br /&gt;In fact, an alternative to using historical standard deviations is to use implied standard deviations, assuming that there are options outstanding on the stock, the bond or on both.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While this approach seems appealing, it is both dangerous and has very limited use. Note that it works only for publicly companies that have significant debt outstanding in the form of corporate bonds. Since these firms are generally large market cap companies, with long histories, they also tend to be companies where estimating the cost of capital using conventional approaches is easiest. This approach cannot be used for large market companies like Apple and Google that have no debt outstanding or for any company that has only bank debt (since it is not traded and has no standard deviation). There is also the underlying problem that the risk of investing in equity (where you get residual cash flows, and the uncertainty is about the magnitude of these cash flows) is very different from the risk of investing in the company's bonds (where the risk is that you will not get promised payments - the upside is limited and the downside is high) and the ratio of their standard deviations may be a poor indication of risk, at least for individual companies. It also assumes that all of the risk in equity is relevant, even though a large portion of that risk may disappear in portfolios. Consequently, you will overstate the cost of equity for firms where the bulk of the risk is firm-specific and not market risk.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notwithstanding these limitations, this approach can still be used as a check on costs of equity estimated using other approaches, especially for companies that have significant debt outstanding. Since the claims of equity investors can be met only after lenders' claims have been met, it is logical that the cost of equity should be higher than the pre-tax cost of debt, with the difference increasing with the proportion of cash flows being used to service debt payments. Using a simple proxy for this proportion - interest coverage ratio (operating income/ interest expense), for instance, I would hypothesize that the cost of equity will rise, relative to the cost of debt, as the interest coverage ratio decreases. Incidentally, this is the same rationale that we use to adjust betas for financial leverage, with beta increasing as the debt to equity ratio increases.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The series on alternatives to the CAPM&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-1-relative.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 1: Relative Risk Measures&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-2-proxy.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 2: Proxy Models &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-3-connecting.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 3: Connecting cost of equity to cost of debt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-4-market.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 4: Market-implied costs of equity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-5-risk-adjusting.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 5: Risk adjusting the cash flows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-wrapping-up.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Wrapping up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-2725074460411641921?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/2725074460411641921/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=2725074460411641921' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2725074460411641921'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2725074460411641921'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-3-connecting.html' title='Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 3: Connecting cost of debt to cost of equity'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-1439301007095630258</id><published>2011-04-29T08:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-30T09:34:40.507-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 2: Proxy Models</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;The conventional models for risk and return in finance (CAPM, arbitrage pricing model and even multi-factor models) start by making assumptions about how investors behave and how markets work to derive models that measure risk and link those measures to expected returns. While these models have the advantage of a foundation in economic theory, they seem to fall short in explaining differences in returns across investments. The reasons for the failure of these models run the gamut: the assumptions made about markets are unrealistic (no transactions costs, perfect information) and investors don't behave rationally (and behavioral finance research provides ample evidence of this).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With proxy models, we essentially give up on building risk and return models from economic theory. Instead, we start with how investments are priced by markets and relate returns earned to observable variables. Rather than talk in abstractions, consider the &lt;a href="http://www.bengrahaminvesting.ca/Research/Papers/French/The_Cross-Section_of_Expected_Stock_Returns.pdf"&gt;work done by Fama and French in the early 1990s&lt;/a&gt;. Examining returns earned by individual stocks from 1962 to 1990, they concluded that CAPM betas did not explain much of the variation in these returns. They then took a different tack and &amp;nbsp;looking for company-specific variables that did a better job of explaining return differences and pinpointed two variables - the market capitalization of a firm and its price to book ratio (the ratio of market cap to accounting book value for equity). Specifically, they concluded that small market cap stocks earned much higher annual returns than large market cap stocks and that low price to book ratio stocks earned much higher annual returns than stocks that traded at high price to book ratios. Rather than view this as evidence of market inefficiency (which is what prior studies that had found the same phenomena had), they argued if these stocks earned higher returns over long time periods, they must be riskier than stocks that earned lower returns. In effect, market capitalization and price to book ratios were better proxies for risk, according to their reasoning, than betas. In fact, they regressed returns on stocks against the market capitalization of a company and its price to book ratio to arrive at the following regression for US stocks;&lt;br /&gt;Expected Monthly Return = 1.77% - 0.11 (ln(Market Capitalization in millions) + 0.35 (ln (Book/Price))&lt;br /&gt;In a pure proxy model, you could plug the market capitalization and book to market ratio for any company into this regression to get expected monthly returns.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the two decades since the Fama-French paper brought proxy models to the fore, researchers have probed the data (which has become more detailed and voluminous over time) to find better and additional proxies for risk. Some of the proxies are highlighted below:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Earnings Momentum&lt;/u&gt;: Equity research analysts will find vindication in research that seems to indicate that companies that have reported stronger than expected earnings growth in the past earn higher returns than the rest of the market.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Price Momentum&lt;/u&gt;: Chartists will smile when they read this, but researchers have concluded that price momentum carries over into future periods. Thus, the expected returns will be higher for stocks that have outperformed markets in recent time periods and lower for stocks that have lagged.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Liquidit&lt;/u&gt;y: In a nod to real world costs, there seems to be clear evidence that stocks that are less liquid (lower trading volume, higher bid-ask spreads) earn higher returns than more liquid stocks. In fact, I have a &lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1729408"&gt;paper on liquidity&lt;/a&gt;, where I explore the estimation of a liquidity beta and liquidity risk premium to adjust expected returns for less liquid companies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While the use of pure proxy models by practitioners is rare, they have adapted the findings for these models into their day-to-day use. IMany analysts have melded the CAPM with proxy models to create composite or melded models. For instance, many analysts who value small companies derive expected returns for these companies by adding a "small cap premium" to the CAPM expected return:&lt;br /&gt;Expected return = Riskfree rate + Market Beta * Equity Risk Premium + Small Cap Premium&lt;br /&gt;The threshold for small capitalization varies across time but is generally set at the bottom decile of publicly traded companies and the small cap premium itself is estimated by looking at the historical premium earned by small cap stocks over the market. (In my 2011 paper on equity risk premiums, I estimate that companies in the bottom market cap decile earned 4.82% more than the overall market between 1928 and 2010.) Thus, the expected return (cost of equity) for a small cap company, with a beta of 1.20 would be:&lt;br /&gt;Expected return = 3.5% + 1.2 (5%) + 4.82% = 14.32%&lt;br /&gt;(I have used a riskfree rate of 3.5% and a mature market premium of 5% in my estimation)&lt;br /&gt;Using the Fama-French findings, the CAPM has been expanded to include market capitalization and price to book ratios as additional variables, with the expected return stated as:&lt;br /&gt;Expected return = Riskfree rate + Market Beta * Equity Risk Premium + Size beta * Small cap risk premium + Book to Market beta * Book to Market premium&lt;br /&gt;The size factor and the book to market betas are estimated by regressing a stock's returns against the size premium and book to market premiums over time; this is analogous to the way we get the market beta, by regressing stock returns against overall market returns.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While the use of proxy and melded models offers a way of adjusting expected returns to reflect market reality, there are three dangers in using these models.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Data mining&lt;/u&gt;: As the amount of data that we have on companies increases and becomes more accessible, it is inevitable that we will find more variables that are related to returns. It is also likely that most of these variables are not proxies for risk and that the correlation is a function of the time period that we look at. In effect, proxy models are statistical models and not economic models. Thus, there is no easy way to separate the variables that matter from those that do not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Standard error&lt;/u&gt;: Since proxy models come from looking at historical data, they carry all of the burden of the noise in the data . Stock returns are extremely volatile over time, and any historical premia that we compute (for market capitalization or any other variable) are going to have significant standard errors. For instance, the small cap premium of 4.82% between 1928 and 2010 has a standard error of 2.02%; put simply, the true premium may be less than 1% or higher than 7%. The standard errors on the size and book to market betas in the three factor Fama-French model are so large that using them in practice creates almost as much noise as it adds in precision.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Pricing error or Risk proxy&lt;/u&gt;: For decades, value investors have argued that you should invest in stocks with low PE ratios that trade at low multiples of book value and have high dividend yields, pointing to the fact that you will earn higher returns by doing so. (In fact, a scan of Ben Graham's screens from security analysis for cheap companies unearths most of the proxies that you see in use today.) &amp;nbsp;Proxy models incorporate all of these variables into the expected return and thus render these assets to be fairly priced. Using the circular logic of these models, markets are always efficient because any inefficiency that exists is just another risk proxy that needs to get built into the model.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have never used the Fama-French model or added a small cap premium to a CAPM model in intrinsic valuation. If I believe that small cap stocks are riskier than large stocks, I have an obligation to think of fundamental or economic reasons why and build those into my risk and return model or into the parameters of the model. Adding a small cap premium strikes me as not only a sloppy (and high error) way of adjusting expected returns but an abdication of the mission in intrinsic valuation, which is to build up your numbers from fundamentals. I do think that it makes sense to adjust your expected returns for liquidity, and I think our capacity to do so is improving as we get access to more data on liquidity and better models for incorporating that data.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The series on alternatives to the CAPM&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-1-relative.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 1: Relative Risk Measures&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-2-proxy.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 2: Proxy Models &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-3-connecting.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 3: Connecting cost of equity to cost of debt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-4-market.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 4: Market-implied costs of equity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-5-risk-adjusting.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 5: Risk adjusting the cash flows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-wrapping-up.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Wrapping up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-1439301007095630258?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/1439301007095630258/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=1439301007095630258' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1439301007095630258'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1439301007095630258'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-2-proxy.html' title='Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 2: Proxy Models'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-3291005942524492787</id><published>2011-04-28T14:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-30T09:34:58.264-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='The'/><title type='text'>Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 1: Relative Risk Measures</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;The Capital Asset Pricing Model (CAPM) is almost fifty years old and it still evokes strong responses, especially from practitioners. In academia, the CAPM lives on primarily in the archives of old journals and most researchers have moved on to newer asset pricing models. &amp;nbsp;To practitioners, it represents everything that is wrong with financial theory, and beta is the cudgel that is used to beat up academics, no matter what the topic. I have never been shy about arguing the following:&lt;br /&gt;a. The CAPM is a flawed model for risk and return among many flawed models.&lt;br /&gt;b. The estimates of expected return that we get from the CAPM can be significantly improved if we use more information and remember basic statistics along the way. (I argue for using sector betas rather than a single regression beta.)&lt;br /&gt;c. The expected returns we get from the CAPM (discount rates in valuation and corporate finance) are a small piece of overall corporate finance and valuation. In fact, removing the CAPM from my tool box will in no way paralyze me in my estimation of value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notwithstanding this, I understand the discomfort that people feel with the CAPM at several levels. First, by starting with the premise that risk is symmetric - the upside and downside are balanced - it already seems to concede the fight to beat the market. After all, a good investment should have more upside than downside; value investors in particular build their investment strategies around the ethos of minimizing downside risk while expanding upside potential. Second, the model's dependence upon past market prices to get a measure of risk (betas after all come from regressions) should make anyone wary: after all, markets are often volatile for no good fundamental reason. Third, the CAPM's focus on breaking down risk into diversifiable and undiversifiable risk, with only the latter being relevant for beta does not convince some, who believe that the distinction is meaningless or should not be made.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Consequently, both academics and practitioners have been on the lookout for better ways of measuring risk and estimating expected returns. In this post, which will be the first of a few, I want to look at alternatives to the CAPM that stay with its core set-up, where the risk of an investment is measured relative to the average risk investment and expected returns are derived accordingly:&lt;br /&gt;E(Return) = Riskfree Rate + Beta of investment (Expected Risk Premium for all risky investments)&lt;br /&gt;Note that in this set up, the riskfree rate and expected risk premium are the same for all investments in a market and that beta alone carries the burden of measuring risk. The fact that betas are scaled around one provides for a simple intuitive hook: an investment with a beta of 1.2 is 1.2 times more risky than the average investment in the market. I have extended papers on how best to estimate the &lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1317436"&gt;riskfree rate&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1769064"&gt;expected equity risk premium&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;I. Multi Beta Models&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Contrary to conventional wisdom, which views theorists as cult followers of beta, the criticism of the CAPM in academia has been around for as long as the model itself. While the initial critiques just argued that CAPM betas did not do very well in explaining past returns, we did see two alternatives emerge by the late 1970s.&lt;br /&gt;- &lt;i&gt;The Arbitrage Pricing Model&lt;/i&gt;, which stays true to conventional portfolio theory, but allows for multiple (though unidentified) sources of market risk, with betas estimated against each one.&lt;br /&gt;- &lt;i&gt;The Multifactor model&lt;/i&gt;, which uses historical data to relate stock returns to specific macro economic variables (the level of interest rates, the slope of the yield curve, growth rate in the GDP) and estimates betas for individual companies against these macro factors.&lt;br /&gt;Both models represent extensions of the CAPM, with multiple betas replacing a single market beta, with risk premiums to go with each one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Pluses&lt;/u&gt;: Do better than the CAPM in explaining past return differences across investments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Minuses:&lt;/u&gt; For forward looking estimates (which is what we usually need in corporate finance and valuation), the improvement over the CAPM is debatable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Bottom line&lt;/u&gt;: If you don't like the CAPM because of its complexity and its assumptions about markets, you will like multi beta models even less.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;II. Market Price based Models&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The CAPM beta can be written as follows:&lt;br /&gt;CAPM Beta = Correlation between stock and market * Standard deviation in returns of stock/ Standard deviation in returns of market&lt;br /&gt;The instability in this estimate comes from the correlation input, which can be volatile and change dramatically from period to period. One alternative suggested by some is to dispense with the correlation entirely and to estimate the relative risk of a stock by dividing its standard deviation by the average (or median) standard deviation across all stocks. For instance, the median annualized standard deviation across all US stocks between 2008 and 2010 was 57.01%. The relative standard deviation scores for two firms - Apple and 3M - can be computed using their annualized standard deviations over the same period: Apple's standard deviation was 42.66% and 3M's standard deviation was 25.17%.&lt;br /&gt;Apple's relative standard deviation = 42.66%/ 57.01% = 0.75&lt;br /&gt;3M's relative standard deviation = 25.17%/57.01% = 0.44&lt;br /&gt;These take the place of the CAPM betas and get used with the riskfree rate and equity risk premium to get expected returns.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Pluses&lt;/u&gt;: Standard deviations are easier to compute and more stable than correlations (and betas)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Minuses&lt;/u&gt;: No real economic rationale behind the model. Treats all risk as equivalent, whether it can be diversified away or not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Bottom line&lt;/u&gt;: For those who want relative risk measures that look closer to what they would intuitively expect, it is an alternative. For those who do not like market based measures, it is more of the same.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;III. Accounting information based Models&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For those who are inherently suspicious of any market based measure, there is always accounting information that can be used to come up with a measure of risk. In particular, firms that have low debt ratios, high dividends, stable and growing accounting earnings and large cash holdings should be less risky to equity investors than firms without these characteristics. While the intuition is impeccable, converting it into an expected return can be problematic, but here are some choices:&lt;br /&gt;a&lt;i&gt;. Pick one accounting ratio and create scaled risk measures around that ratio&lt;/i&gt;. Thus, the median book debt to capital ratio for US companies at the start of 2011 was 51%. The book debt to capital ratio for 3M at that time 30.91%, yielding a relative risk measure of 0.61 for the company. The perils of this approach should be clear when applied to Apple, since the firm has no debt outstanding, yielding a relative risk of zero (which is an absurd result).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;b. Compute an accounting beta&lt;/i&gt;: Rather than estimate a beta from market prices, an accounting beta is estimated from accounting numbers. One simple approach is to relate changes in accounting earnings at a firm to accounting earnings for the entire market. Firms that have more stable earnings than the rest of the market or whose earnings movements have nothing to do with the rest of the market will have low accounting betas. An extended version of this approach would be to estimate the accounting beta as a function of multiple accounting variables including dividend payout ratios, debt ratios, cash balances and earnings stability for the entire market. Plugging in the values for an individual company into this regression will yield an accounting beta for the firm. While this approach looks promising, here are some cautionary notes: accounting numbers are smoothed out and can hide risk and are estimated at most four times a year (as opposed to market numbers which get minute by minute updates).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Pluses&lt;/u&gt;: The risk is related to a company's fundamentals, which seems more in keeping with an intrinsic valuation view of the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Minuses:&lt;/u&gt; Accounting numbers can be deceptive and the estimates can have significant errors associated with them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Bottom line:&lt;/u&gt; If you truly do not trust market prices, use accounting data to construct your risk measures.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reason for the CAPM's endurance as a model is simple. It provides a way of estimating the required returns and costs of equity for individual companies at low cost, by requiring only one input: a market beta. For those who like that aspect of the model, but don't like the baggage that comes with the model, relative standard deviations and accounting betas provide an alternative. For those who like the theoretical underpinnings of the model but do not like the poor estimates that it yields, the arbitrage and multifactor models should appeal. For those who contest the very basis of the approach, I will look at alternatives in the next few posts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;The series on alternatives to the CAPM&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-1-relative.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 1: Relative Risk Measures&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-2-proxy.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 2: Proxy Models &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-3-connecting.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 3: Connecting cost of equity to cost of debt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-4-market.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 4: Market-implied costs of equity&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-5-risk-adjusting.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 5: Risk adjusting the cash flows&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-wrapping-up.html"&gt;Alternatives to the CAPM: Wrapping up&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-3291005942524492787?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/3291005942524492787/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=3291005942524492787' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3291005942524492787'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3291005942524492787'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/alternatives-to-capm-part-1-relative.html' title='Alternatives to the CAPM: Part 1: Relative Risk Measures'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-2621407722668905460</id><published>2011-04-16T11:26:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-04-16T11:26:47.012-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Margin of Safety: An alternative risk assessment tool?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;I have lost count of the number of times I have been taken to task for not mentioning "margin of safety" in my valuation and investment books. In general, the critique is usually couched thus: "Instead of using beta or some other portfolio theory risk measure, why don't you look at the margin of safety?". While I see the intuitive value of paying heed to the "margin of safety", &amp;nbsp;I don't see the two as alternative measures of risk. In fact, I think that risk measures in valuation and margin of safety play very different roles in investing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know that "margin of safety" has a long history in value investing. While the term may have been in use prior to 1934, Graham and Dodd brought it into the value investing vernacular, when they used it in the first edition of "Security Analysis". Put simply, they argued that investors should buy stocks that trade at significant discounts on value and developed screens that would yield these stocks. In fact, many of Graham's screens in investment analysis (low PE, stocks that trade at a discount on net working capital) are attempts to put the margin of safety into practice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the years since, there have been value investors who have woven the margin on safety (MOS) into their valuation strategies. In fact, here is how I understand how a savvy value investor uses MOS. The first step in the process requires screening for companies that meets good company criteria: solid management, good product and sustainable competitive advantage; this is often done qualitatively but can be quantifiable. The second step in the process is the estimation of intrinsic value, but value investors are all over the map on how they do this: some use discounted cash flow, some use relative valuation and some look at book value. The third step in the process is to compare the price to the intrinsic value and that is where the MOS comes in: with a margin of safety of 40%, you would only buy an asset if its price was more than 40% below its intrinsic value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The term returned to center stage a few years ago, when Seth Klarman, a value investing legend, wrote a &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Margin-Safety-Risk-Averse-Strategies-Thoughtful/dp/0887305105"&gt;book &lt;/a&gt;using the term as the title, published in 1991. In the book, though, Seth summarizes the margin of safety as "buying assets at a significant discount to underlying business value, and giving preference to tangible assets over intangibles". &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #111111; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times, 'Times New Roman', serif;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Seth is a brilliant thinker (I love the letters he writes to investors..) &amp;nbsp;and the book has original and interesting ways of looking at risk. I learned a great deal about the ethos of value investing but it did not alter the fundamental ways in which I approached estimating intrinsic value, only the ways in which I used that value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The basic idea behind MOS is an unexceptional one. In fact, would any investor (growth, value or a technical analyst) disagree with the notion that you would like buy an asset at a significant discount on estimated value? Even the most daring growth investor would buy into the notion, though she may disagree about what to incorporate into intrinsic value. To integrate MOS into the investment process, we need to recognize its place in the process and its limitations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. &lt;u&gt;Stage of the investment process&lt;/u&gt;: Note that the MOS is used by investors at the very last stage of the investment process, once you have screened for good companies and estimated intrinsic value. Thinking about MOS while screening for companies or estimating intrinsic value is a distraction, not a help.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Proposition 1: MOS comes into play at the end of the investment process, not at the beginning.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. &lt;u&gt;MOS is only as good as your estimate of intrinsic value&lt;/u&gt;: This should go without saying but the MOS is heavily dependent on getting good and unbiased estimates of the intrinsic value. Put a different way, if you consistently over estimate intrinsic value by 100% ore greater, having a 40% margin for error will not protect you against bad investment choices.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is perhaps the reason why I have never understood why MOS is offered as an alternative to the standard risk and return measures used in intrinsic valuation (beta or betas). Beta is not an investment choice tool but an input (and not even the key one) into a discounted cash flow model. In other words, there is no reason why I cannot use beta to estimate intrinsic value and then use MOS to determine whether I buy the investment. If you don't like beta as your measure of risk, I completely understand, but how does using MOS provide an alternative? You still need to come up with a different way of incorporating risk into your analysis and estimating intrinsic value. (Perhaps, you would like me to use the risk free rate as my discount rate in discounted cash flow valuation and use MOS as my risk adjustment measure... That's an interesting choice and worth talking about ... I know that Buffett claims to do something similar, but he discounts only the cash flows that he believes he can count on, making his cash flows risk adjusted cash flows.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know.. I know... There are those who argue that you don't need to do discounted cash flow valuation to estimate intrinsic value and that there are alternatives. True, but they come with their own baggage. One is to use relative valuation: assume that the multiple (PE or EV/EBITDA) at which the sector is trading at can be used to estimate the intrinsic value for your company. The upside of this approach is that it is simple and does not require an explicit risk adjustment. The downside is that you make implicit assumptions about risk and growth when you use a sector average multiple... The other is to use book value, in stated or modified form, as the intrinsic value. Not a bad way of doing things, if you trust accountants to get these numbers right... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Proposition 2: MOS does not substitute for risk assessment and intrinsic valuation, but augments them.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. &lt;u&gt;Need a measure of error in intrinsic value estimate&lt;/u&gt;: If you are going to use a MOS, it cannot be a constant. Intuitively, you would expect it to vary across investments and across time. Why? The reason we build in margins for error is because we are uncertain about our own estimates of intrinsic value, but that uncertainty is not the same for all stocks. Thus, I would feel perfectly comfortable buying stock in Con Ed, a regulated utility where I feel secure about my estimates of cash flows, growth and risk, with a 20% margin of safety, whereas I would need a 40% margin of safety, before buying Google or Apple, where I face more uncertainty. In a similar vein, I would have demanded a much larger margin of safety in November 2008, when macro economic uncertainty was substantial, than today, for the same stock.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While this may seem completely subjective, it does not have to be so. If we can bring probabilistic approaches (simulations, scenario analysis) to play in intrinsic valuation, we can not only estimate intrinsic value but also the standard error in the estimates.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;Proposition 3: The MOS cannot and should not be a fixed number, but should be reflective of the uncertainty in the assessment of intrinsic value.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. &lt;u&gt;There is a cost to having a larger margin of safety&lt;/u&gt;: Adding MOS to the investment process adds a constraint and every constraint creates a cost. What, you may wonder, is the cost of investing only in stocks that have a margin on safety of 40% or higher? Borrowing from statistics, there are two types of errors in investing: type 1 errors, where you invest in over valued stocks thinking that they are cheap and type 2 errors, where you don't invest in under valued stocks because of concerns that they might be over valued. Adding MOS to the screening process and increasing the MOS reduces your chance of type 1 errors but increases the possibility of type 2 errors. For individual investors or small portfolio managers, the cost of type 2 errors may be small because there are so many listed stocks and they have relatively little money to invest. However, as fund size increases, the costs of type 2 errors will also go up. I know quite of few larger mutual fund managers, who claim to be value investors , who cannot find enough stocks that meet their MOS criteria and hold larger and larger amounts of the fund in cash.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It gets worse, when a MOS is overlaid on top of a conservative estimate of intrinsic value. While the investments that make it through both tests may be great, there may be very few or no investments that meet these criteria. I would love to find a company with growing earnings, no debt, trading for less than the cash balance on the balance sheet. I would also like to play shortstop for the Yankees and slam dunk a basketball and I have no chance of doing any of those and I would waste my time and resources trying to do so.&lt;br /&gt;P&lt;b&gt;roposition 4: Being too conservative can be damaging to your long term investment prospects.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, let's call a truce. Rather than making intrinsic valuation techniques (such as DCF) the enemy and portraying portfolio theory as the black science, value investors who want to use MOS should consider incorporating useful information from both to refine MOS as an investment technique. After all, we have a shared objective. We want to generate better returns on our investments than the proverbial monkey with a dartboard... or the Vanguard 500 Index fund...&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-2621407722668905460?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/2621407722668905460/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=2621407722668905460' title='22 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2621407722668905460'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/2621407722668905460'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/04/margin-of-safety-alternative-risk_16.html' title='Margin of Safety: An alternative risk assessment tool?'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>22</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-7433039687992669693</id><published>2011-03-29T09:41:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-03-29T09:41:11.742-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Breach of Trust: Bank Valuation after the banking crisis</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;Until the banking crisis of 2008, investors had made a Faustian bargain, when it came to valuing and investing in banks. Banks were opaque in their public disclosures and investors often had little information on either the risk of the securities held or the default probabilities of loan portfolios. However, investors were willing to accept this opacity and view banks as "safe" investments for two reasons:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Banks were regulated in their risk takin&lt;/u&gt;g: In effect, we were assuming that bank regulators would bring enough scrutiny to the process to prevent banks from taking "rash" risks. (We also assumed that the regulatory authorities had access to far more information that we did and would act accordingly.)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Assets (and equity capital) were marked to market&lt;/u&gt;: The notion of marking to market was adopted much more quickly in financial service firms than at other sectors. Our distrust of accounting notwithstanding, we assumed that the book values for banks actually were good reflections of market value.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How did this faith in the regulatory overlay get reflected in valuation/investing?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;In intrinsic valuation, banks remained the last holdout for the use of the dividend discount model. Unlike other companies, where our distrust in managers paying out what they could afford to had led us to move on to free cash flows, we retained the faith that bank managers, constrained by the need to meet regulatory capital constraints on one hand and "dividend seeking" investors on the other, would pay out what they could afford to in dividends. (In effect, banks that paid too much in dividends would be punished by the regulators and those that paid too little in dividends would be punished by investors.)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;In relative valuation, the book value of equity in a bank was given more weight than in other sectors, because it was marked to market and subject to regulatory capital rules. Thus, price to book ratios (with returns on equity as companion variables) were widely used in analysis: a bank with a low price to book ratio and a high return on equity was viewed as a bargain. Worse still, risk averse investors were asked to buy the highest dividend yield banks and assured that these yields were secure.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;So, what's changed? First, our faith in both bankers and regulators has been shaken, perhaps to a point of no return. We can no longer assume that having regulatory rules on risk taking will result in sensible risk taking at individual banks. There can be, as there are in other sectors, very risky banks, risky banks, safe banks and very safe banks, as a consequence. Second, the erratic and often ill-thought out dividend policies adopted by banks since the crisis indicates that bank managers, at many banks, use dividends as a blunt weapon. How else can you explain banks with precarious capital ratios that continue to pay and increase dividends, while raising fresh capital in preferred stock at the same time? In fact, it is a sign of the times that the Fed&amp;nbsp; stepped in to stop a major money center bank from paying dividends, as &lt;a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/bank-of-america-recovery-dividends-2011-3"&gt;it did with Bank of America&lt;/a&gt; a couple of weeks ago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what do we do now? In intrinsic valuation, we have two choices.&lt;br /&gt;1. One is to use a modified version of the dividend discount model, where we estimate future dividends based upon expected growth and the return on equity that we foresee for a bank, rather than the actual dividends in the last period. Thus, if a bank is expected to grow at 8% and has a return on equity of 10%, it an afford to pay out only 20% of its earnings as dividends:&lt;br /&gt;Payout ratio = 1 - Expected growth rate/ Return on equity&lt;br /&gt;Thus, we can bring in both the quality of a bank's investments and expected changes in regulatory capital rules into the valuation. Increases in regulatory capital requirements will reduce the return on equity and by extension, the capacity to pay dividends.&lt;br /&gt;2. The other and more complicated route requires knowledge of regulatory capital requirements and involves the following steps. You first estimate the growth in the asset base of the bank (growth in loans, for instance). You then follow up by estimating how much regulatory capital will be required to sustain the asset base - that will depend upon the risk in the asset base and the regulatory capital ratio that the bank wants to maintain. (Note that this ratio will not necessarily be at the regulatory minimum since conservative banks will maintain a buffer.) Changes in regulatory capital from period to period than take on the role that capital expenditures do in a more conventional firm and can be used to compute free cash flows to equity:&lt;br /&gt;FCFE for a bank = Net Income - Change in Regulatory capital required for future growth&lt;br /&gt;These FCFE are potential dividends and can be discounted to arrive at fair value. In fact the cost of equity for a bank can then be tied to its regulatory capital buffer: banks that build in a bigger buffer will be safer and have a lower cost of equity whereas banks that are more aggressive in both their asset holdings and regulatory capital policies will have higher costs of equity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In relative valuation, I think that the use of price to book ratios, in conjunction with return on equity, still makes sense, but risk now has to be treated as a third dimension. The risk itself can be measured using a variety of measures: regulatory capital ratios (higher ratios are safer), losses on bad loans (higher is riskier) or holdings of toxic securities (higher is riskier). A bargain bank will then be one that trades at a low price to book ratio, has a high return on equity and is well capitalized.&amp;nbsp;I expand on both notions in this paper that I wrote a couple of years ago on valuing banks (which subsequently became a chapter in one of my books):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1798578"&gt;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1798578&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think that there are broader policy implications.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;More transparency in financial statements&lt;/u&gt;: Since banks have broken their side of the bargain with investors, we need to respond by removing the opacity from the financial statements of banks. Banks should be forced to provide far more detail about the riskiness of their security holdings and the default risk in the loans that they make. Much more information needs to be provided about regulatory capital requirements and the policies that banks adopt on regulatory capital should be more transparent.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;Regulatory capital has to be common equity&lt;/u&gt;: Banks that are under capitalized should be required to issue common stock, and face up to their fears of dilution. We need to scrap the notion that preferred stock (a tax-inefficient mismash) or convoluted hybrids (such as &lt;a href="http://thestockmarketwatch.com/stock-market-news/hot-stocks-to-watch/credit-suisse-issues-coco-bonds/5503"&gt;these&lt;/a&gt;) will be treated as equity, since it exposes us to game playing and worse.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am not ready to give up on investing in banks. In fact, I am sure that some banks are great bargains and the payoff to finding these, in this time of greater uncertainty, is higher than ever before. But I will be more careful in my assessments of banks and not take numbers for given, just because they have been rubber stamped by regulators and appraised by accountants. That is more a promise to myself than to you!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-7433039687992669693?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/7433039687992669693/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=7433039687992669693' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/7433039687992669693'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/7433039687992669693'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/03/breach-of-trust-bank-valuation-after.html' title='Breach of Trust: Bank Valuation after the banking crisis'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-5513299558089227841</id><published>2011-03-22T09:03:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-03-22T09:17:20.724-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Catastrophe and consequences for value</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;The airwaves have been inundated with news about natural disasters in Japan and their aftermath. Without minimizing the human impact - the thousands who have lost their lives and belongings - and the dangers of a nuclear meltdown, I want to focus on the impact of catastrophes, natural or man-made, on markets and asset values. While each disaster is different, here are some common themes that emerge after the disaster:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Our definition of "long time periods" is woefully inadequate&lt;/u&gt;: After the quake, which measured 8.9 on the Richter scale and ranked as one of the five strongest in recorded history, it was noted that nothing of this magnitude had been seen in Japan over the last 300 years. Since much of the regulation (of construction and nuclear power plants) had been structured based upon past history, they proved inadequate for the quake. As I look at how much of what we do in corporate finance and valuation is based upon time periods of 80-100 years (if we are lucky) and 10-20 years (if we are not), I wonder how much we are missing as a consequence of our dependence on the past.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;u&gt;b. Experts are always "surprised" and are exceptionally good at ex-post rationalization&lt;/u&gt;: I am not that knowledgeable about earthquakes, but as I watched earthquake experts on the news in the days following the quake, I was struck by how much they reminded me of financial experts after the banking crisis in 2008 in their messages. First, for the most part, they admitted to be surprised by both the magnitude and the location of the quake (just as banking experts were surprised by the magnitude of and players in the sub-prime crisis). Second, they waxed eloquent about how uncertain they were about&amp;nbsp; long term consequences.... which leaves me wondering why we call them experts in the first place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. The doomsayers will have their day in the sun&lt;/u&gt;:&amp;nbsp; In the aftermath of every crisis, there will be people who emerge from the woodwork to say "I told you so". They will be feted as celebrities and treated as oracles, at least for a while. My response is less positive. After all, I have walked by the crazy preacher in Times Square almost every weekday, for close to 25 years, and he has warned me every single time that I have passed him that the end of the world was coming... He did sound prescient on September 12, 2001, but he was bound to, sooner or later. That is the reaction I have to those who preach doom and gloom all the time. They will be right at times but I will not attribute that success to wisdom but to accident....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;d. Managing catastrophic risk exposure is much more difficult than managing continuous risk exposure&lt;/u&gt;: As companies and investors with Japanese risk exposure struggled with the aftermath of the disaster, I was reminded again of how much more difficult it is to manage and deal with discontinuous risk than continuous risk, especially if that risk occurs infrequently and has large economic consequences. In fact, this is the reason that I &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2009/09/risk-argument-democracies-versus.html"&gt;argued that companies that think that operating in authoritarian, stable regimes is less risky than operating in democratic chaos are mistaken&lt;/a&gt;. It is also the reason why managing exchange rate risk in a floating rate currency is much easier than managing that risk in a fixed rate currency.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am not a deep thinker and am more interested in the prosaic than in the profound,&amp;nbsp; but I would like to address two questions that I have been asked in the last two weeks:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;i. Are the markets reacting appropriately to the news?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While my instincts, based upon everything I know about behavioral finance, would lead me to say that markets&amp;nbsp; overreact to crises, I am not convinced by the analysis that I have read that make this argument with the Japanese tsunami. While much of the commentary has noted that the market value lost (in the Nikkei) has been disproportionally large, relative to the cost of of the damage, the definition of cost (as damage to existing assets) seems crimped.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I see it, there are three levels of cost from any catastrophe:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Damage to existing assets&lt;/u&gt;: This is measured, either in terms of book value (or what was originally spent to build or acquire these assets) or replacement cost (to replace the damaged assets).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Loss of earnings power&lt;/u&gt;: The true value lost in a catastrophe is not the original cost, replacement cost or book value of the assets destroyed but the present value of cash flows lost in future periods as a result of the loss. Thus, when a factory with a book value or replacement cost of $50 million collapses, the value lost is the present value of the expected cash flows that would have been generated by the factory. If the firm was generating returns that exceeded its cost of capital, the value from the foregone cash flows will exceed $ 50 million.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Psychic damage&lt;/u&gt;: Catastrophes create psychic damage by reminding investors not only of their own mortality but of the fragility of the assumptions that they make to justify value. After all, in discounted cash flow valuations, we assume that cash flows&amp;nbsp; continue in perpetuity for most companies and that big chunks of value (especially for growth companies) come from expectations of excess returns from investments that firms will make in the future. To the extent that catastrophes shake this faith that investors have in the future, they can create significant damage to the value of growth assets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The change in market value after a catastrophe will reflect these costs to varying degrees.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;For mature businesses that generate little in terms of excess returns, the loss in value will approximate just the damage to existing assets (since the present value of cash flows should be close or equal to the book value).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;For mature businesses that generate returns on their investments that exceed the cost of capital, the value loss will be higher than the replacement cost or book value of existing assets and be more reflective of the lost cash flows.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;For growth firms, the loss in value can be extensive (as expectations of future growth get downgraded) even though they may suffer the least losses to existing assets. &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;If you are a contrarian or value investor, who believes that the psychic damage is transitory, there is an investment strategy that emerges from the rubble. It is not to invest in the entire market (all Japanese stocks) or in companies that have dropped the most in price (because some&amp;nbsp; may be mature companies like Tokyo Electric Power that have suffered significant loss of earning power), but to pick those companies where the price drop is more the result of the psychic reaction than the economic costs. (Multinationals like Honda, Toyota and Fuji that are Japanese in origin but have both their revenues and operations spread over the world would be a good place to start looking.) The risk, of course, is that the psychic damage is long term and not easily reversed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;ii. How do you incorporate the risk that catastrophes can occur in the future into valuation models?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we define catastrophes as low-probability, high-impact events that affect most companies in an economy, there are three ways in which we can incorporate those events into value:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Adjust cash flows for an expected insurance cost&lt;/u&gt;: The simplest mechanism for building in the potential for catastrophes is to estimate the cost of insuring against catastrophes and building that cost into the expected cash flows. This, in turn, will lower the cash flows and value of every asset. It may be difficult to do for two reasons. The first is that some catastrophes may be uninsurable and getting an estimate of the insurance cost is not easy. The second is that even if there are insurers willing to provide coverage, a large enough catastrophe may render them incapable of backing up their promises (by making them insolvent). Note also that insurance covers only the first of the three levels of costs - damage to existing assets - and provides little protection against the other two levels - loss of expected cash flows and loss in growth asset value.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Use a higher risk premium&lt;/u&gt;: When buying risky assets, investors attach a risk premium to their required returns- an equity risk premium in the equity market and default spreads in the bond market. Since catastrophes affect entire markets, one way in which investors can build their likelihood (and consequent damage) into value is by charging higher risk premiums. As a consequence, the potential for catastrophe will have a much larger effect on risky, high growth firms than on safer,&amp;nbsp; mature companies. (The higher risk premium will push up costs of capital for all firms, but growth firms will be more affected since they get more of their value from cash flows way into the future.) To me, this seems to be the most viable option, especially when faced with risks that occur rarely, have large effects and are difficult to quantify in cash flow terms. I had an &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2010/03/equity-risk-premiums-and-fear-of.html"&gt;extended post&lt;/a&gt; on this a few months ago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Allow for a higher probability of truncation risk&lt;/u&gt;: As I noted earlier, we value companies assuming cash flows in perpetuity (or at least for very long time periods), and catastrophes can put firms at risk of default or distress. When valuing companies (especially those with significant debt or other obligations), we should not only be more cautious about long term assumptions but also explicitly build into value, the likelihood that the firm will not survive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-5513299558089227841?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/5513299558089227841/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=5513299558089227841' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5513299558089227841'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/5513299558089227841'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/03/catastrophe-and-consequences-for-value.html' title='Catastrophe and consequences for value'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-3978744555599759671</id><published>2011-03-13T18:06:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2011-03-13T18:06:53.175-07:00</updated><title type='text'>A tide in the affairs of men...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;In my last post, I noted how difficult it is to separate luck from skill in&amp;nbsp; both investment and corporate finance.&amp;nbsp; While I remain leery of stock picking success stories (and believe me when I say I hear dozens each week), I continue to admire successful businesses of all stripes, from the bagel shop in my town that manages to sell out every day to Facebook in the social media world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is not that luck does not play a role in business success. In fact, most successful individuals and businesses can point to a stroke of good luck that got them started.&amp;nbsp; Microsoft was lucky that IBM allowed it to write the code that made the first personal computers work and Apple was lucky that music companies were too bullheaded to deviate from their traditional sales model of bundling a dozen songs on an album and forcing people to buy the entire package. It is what great companies do with that initial lucky break that set them apart: when they get lucky, they take that success and build on it. Most other businesses, however, view good luck as a windfall, report higher earnings for the year, but have little to show for it in the long term.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, this was the reason I wrote &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Strategic-Risk-Taking-Framework-Management/dp/0131990489"&gt;my book on strategic risk taking&lt;/a&gt;. If the essence of risk taking is that you are going to be right some of the time and wrong the rest of the time, here is what I see separating good risk takers from bad ones. When good risk taking organizations get lucky and see upside from risk taking, they find ways to build on that upside. When they are confronted with unpleasant surprises, they manage to minimize their losses and move on. In option terminology, successful risk takers create their own call options to augment upside risk and put options to minimize downside risk. Of course, I am not the first to recognize this. Here is one of my favorite quotes from Shakespeare:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;There is a tide in the affairs of men.&lt;br /&gt;Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;&lt;br /&gt;Omitted, all the voyage of their life&lt;br /&gt;Is bound in shallows and in miseries.&lt;br /&gt;On such a full sea are we now afloat,&lt;br /&gt;And we must take the current when it serves,&lt;br /&gt;Or lose our ventures.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Brutus had a splendid grasp of risk taking (though I don't quite know where to put the stabbing of Julius Caesar in the risk taking scale). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Put in less lofty terms, each of us will be blessed with good luck in our investment and business endeavors at some point in time. What we do with that luck will determine whether it leaves a lasting mark or not. In the same vein, each of us will also be unlucky at some point in time and how prepared we are for that contingency will determine whether it will bring us down or just dent us. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-3978744555599759671?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/3978744555599759671/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=3978744555599759671' title='10 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3978744555599759671'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/3978744555599759671'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/03/tide-in-affairs-of-men.html' title='A tide in the affairs of men...'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>10</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-666039547479745362</id><published>2011-03-12T10:25:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-03-12T16:55:46.596-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Luck versus skill: How can you tell?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;A hedge fund manager doubles her investors' money over the course of a year.. A company's stock increases four fold over the course of six months.... these are not unusual news stories but they give rise to one of those enduring questions in finance: Was it luck or skill? The answer of course is critical. If it was "luck", we should not be giving the hedge fund manager 2% of our wealth and 20% of the profits. If it was skill, the company's managers deserve not just a huge thank you but commensurate financial rewards.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As always in finance, there are two extreme outlooks. At one end, there are those who view any superior performance as  evidence of skill and extended superior performance as almost super  natural. At the other end, there are those who who contend that it is all "luck" and that portfolio managers have any "discernible skill". As an illustration, Fama and French have a damning article on active portfolio management, where they note that all of the excess returns in practice can be explained by randomness:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1356021"&gt;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1356021&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In their assessment, all "superior performance" in portfolio management&amp;nbsp; can be attributed to luck. Here is a more recent paper by Andrew Mauboussin and Sam Arbesman that argues that there is some evidence of differential skill:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1664031"&gt;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1664031&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Needless to say, this is an issue where researchers have disagreed and continue to do so. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You may disagree with the broadness of the Fama/French conclusions (and I do), but they do point out how difficult it to differentiate lucky winners from skillful winners.&amp;nbsp;To understand why, it is best to look at an arena where the differentiation between luck and skill is easier: sports. Even those who don't like Sachin Tendulkar, Lionel Messi, Tiger Woods or Kobe Bryant have to admit that they have skills the rest of us don't possess and that their success cannot be attributed to luck.&amp;nbsp; So, why is it so easy to separate skill from luck in sports and not so in finance? Separating luck from skill is easiest when:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Success is clearly defined&lt;/u&gt;: In basketball, you either make a basket or you do not. In cricket, you are out or you are not. In golf, you make par or you do not. In soccer, you score a goal or you do not.&amp;nbsp; An "almost a basket" or "almost par" can be a chatting point with a friend but does not count.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. It is difficult to have a successful outcome with just luck&lt;/u&gt;: I will make a confession. I cannot shoot par on a golf course, make a three pointer in basketball or score a goal in soccer, even with luck.&amp;nbsp; I am awed when I see people do these things, since I know it requires skills that I do not have.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Number of trials&lt;/u&gt;: Professional sports players get hundreds of chances to show their wares,  and luck very quickly drops to the wayside. You may make one three-pointer in the gym, with sheer luck, but if you were asked to shoot a few hundred three pointers, your  limitations would be clear to all. There is no way that luck can explain the hundreds of sub-par rounds that Tiger Woods had (when he was a golfer and not a celebrity), the runs that Sachin scored for India, the points (and championships) for Kobe and the goals that Messi has scored for Argentina (and Barcelona) over time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Looking at finance through these lens, it is easy to see why it is so difficult to separate luck from skill:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Success is not clearly defined&lt;/u&gt;: Is a portfolio manager who makes money for his investors a success? What about one who beats the S&amp;amp;P 500 each year? Is a company that delivers returns that outstrip the rest of the sector a success a "good" company? The very fact that we have to think about our answers to these questions tells you something about "success" in finance. To be successful, you have to beat your benchmark, after controlling for risk. However, since risk is a subjective measure, it is entirely possible for a portfolio manager to be classified as a success by one evaluator and not by another. With hedge funds and private equity managers, it becomes even more so, since the net risk exposure is often tough to measure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. It is easier being successful with just luck in finance&lt;/u&gt;:&amp;nbsp; I would not bet my house that my portfolio selections will deliver higher returns in the next year than those of my neighbor, who picks stocks based on astrological signs and has the financial sense of a dodo, or of my 11-year old son, who has never looked at the Wall Street Journal. As I note in my valuation class, there is no justice in the investing world. You can do everything right (collect the data, analyze it carefully, make reasoned judgments) and go bankrupt... and you can be absolutely cavalier in your investment judgments and make millions. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Too few trials&lt;/u&gt;: Can you be lucky once? Sure! How about 4 times in a row? Yes.. How about 15 years in a row? Not as easy, but with hundreds of people trying, a few will.... One problem that we face in portfolio management and corporate finance is that we get to observe outcomes too infrequently, making it difficult to separate luck from skill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don't mean to leave you in limbo. After all, most of us want to separate luck from skill in finance. So, here are the things that I would look for in a "skillful" portfolio manager or a CEO:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Consistency&lt;/u&gt;: As an investor, I don't want to just see that you beat the market, on average, but that you beat it consistently for an extended period. I am more likely to attribute your success to skill, if you beat the market by 2-3% each year for 15 years than if you beat the market by an average of 2-3%, with more variability and poor years intermixed, over that period.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Transparency&lt;/u&gt;: I tend to mistrust success, when that success is based on portfolio managers self-appraising the values of the properties and investments in their portfolios. A hedge fund may claim it made a 30% return last year, but if that return was based on appraised values for non-traded assets, did it really make 30%? If your success is based on skill and not luck, you should have as open a process as possible for measuring returns and risk and allow investors to observe that process.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Awareness&lt;/u&gt;: If you beat the market, you are pulling off a difficult feat, since there are literally millions of investors attempting to to do the same thing. If it is not luck that is causing the superior performance, you have to be able to point to something that you are bringing to the table that others are not - better information, better analytical tools, a longer time horizon or a very different tax status. If you don't know why you are beating the market, rest assured that you will not be beating the market for very long..... In my experience, the most skillful investors tend to not only be the most self aware (of their strengths and limitations) but also have no qualms about letting you know what their investment philosophy is. (Note that you can be secretive about investment strategies but you give away little by sharing an investment philosophy).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;d. Humility&lt;/u&gt;: This is my subjective input to the process. In my years in the market, I have discovered that it is the lucky investors (with no skill) who are most hot headed and arrogant about their skills, and that skillful investors recognize how much luck can affect their final returns. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is my bottom line for a skillful portfolio manager or CEO: I am looking for a person who has been able to deliver performance that beats the competition consistently over many years, can tell you why he or she can pull this off and is willing to concede that luck could explain the whole phenomena....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Update&lt;/i&gt;: A couple of you have drawn my attention to Mike Mauboussin's excellent and extended discussion of the topic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lmcm.com/pdf/UntanglingSkillandLuck.pdf"&gt;&lt;span class="f"&gt;&lt;cite&gt;www.lmcm.com/pdf/Untangling&lt;b&gt;Skill&lt;/b&gt;and&lt;b&gt;Luck&lt;/b&gt;.pdf&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mike is one of my favorite thinkers in finance - he is always original and manages to think across disciplines - and I don't know how I missed this piece but he says what I was trying to say much better than I ever could, and in much more depth. Do read it! &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-666039547479745362?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/666039547479745362/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=666039547479745362' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/666039547479745362'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/666039547479745362'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/03/luck-versus-skill-how-can-you-tell.html' title='Luck versus skill: How can you tell?'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-6234270945455319149</id><published>2011-03-01T07:29:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-03-01T07:29:27.033-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Behavioral Economics: Thoughts on Value and Price</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;I must confess that I was a skeptic on behavioral finance until a few years ago. At that point, the amount of information that had been accumulated on the "irrational" behavior of investors became so overwhelming that I faced one of two choices. I could ignore reality and live in the clean, rational world of classical economics or I could face up to facts and think about how investment and corporate finance decisions should be made in the messy world that we live in. After struggling with the conflict, I think I am making some progress. In an &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2009/07/behavioral-finance-and-corporate.html"&gt;earlier post&amp;nbsp; &lt;/a&gt;on the third edition of my corporate finance book, I noted my attempts to incorporate the findings from behavioral finance into every aspect of corporate finance from how to create effective boards of directors to capital budgeting and capital structure decisions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reconciling behavioral finance with my view of the world has been tougher in my other area of interest: valuation. Every semester that I teach the valuation class, using the tools of the trade (discounted cash flow models, relative valuation), I am asked how I would incorporate the findings from behavioral finance into valuation. Here is my reaction. I don't think intrinsic valuation approaches will change much, if at all, as a result of behavioral economics. The expected cash flows are still the expected cash flows and&amp;nbsp; the required return still has to reflect the perceived risk in the investment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, what does change? Remember that to make money of your valuations, not only do you have to be able to value assets but the price has to move towards that value. Behavioral economics provides us with interesting insights on three dimensions:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Why do different analysts arrive at different estimates of value for the same company?&lt;/u&gt;&amp;nbsp; When you value a company, you are one of many doing so, often drawing on the same information as other investors, and often using the same models. So why do different analysts arrive at different estimates of value?&amp;nbsp; By looking at the interaction between psychology and valuation, behavioral economics yields interesting insights into why the values that we arrive at are different (and by extension, why some of us are buyers and others are sellers) and the systematic errors (over valuation or under valuation) that we make as a consequence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Why does price differs from value?&lt;/u&gt; In the classical world, the price can deviate from value because investors make mistakes or because the price may reflect information that the analyst may not have or vice versa. With behavioral economics, we are learning that even if investors may behave in ways (refusing to sell losers, wanting to be part of the crowd, being over confident and misassessing probabilities) that cause prices to diverge from value by significant amounts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. When will they converge? &lt;/u&gt;Behavioral economics may provide us with clues about how quickly convergence between price and value will happen and why the speed may vary across assets. That would be incredibly useful to an investor. Thus, we may be able to answer a question that has historically eluded us: If I buy a cheap stock today (and I am right about it being cheap), how long do I have to wait before my bet pays off?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As investors, it behooves us to not only become conversant with the findings in behavioral finance but to also recognize when following instinct can damage portfolios. Meir Statman, one of my favorite behavioral economists, has written a great book on how investors can overcome their base urges and make better decisions:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/What-Investors-Really-Want-Financial/dp/0071741658/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_1"&gt;http://www.amazon.com/What-Investors-Really-Want-Financial/dp/0071741658/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope you get a chance to read it. There is much work to be done, but the foundations are being laid.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-6234270945455319149?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/6234270945455319149/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=6234270945455319149' title='11 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/6234270945455319149'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/6234270945455319149'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/03/behavioral-economics-thoughts-on-value.html' title='Behavioral Economics: Thoughts on Value and Price'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>11</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-1600801569475391815</id><published>2011-02-28T16:09:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-28T18:28:26.885-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Buffett and Black-Scholes</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;As always, I am playing with fire when I critique Warren Buffett, but he does indulge in hyperbole (I hope that is all it is..) when he strays from his preferred habitat. In fact, &lt;a href="http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2009/03/buffett-man-or-myth.html"&gt;my previous post on him&lt;/a&gt; evoked some strong responses. In the last Berkshire Hathaway report, he is quoted as saying “Both Charlie and I believe that Black-Scholes produces wildly inappropriate values when applied to long-dated options… Academics’ current practice of teaching Black-Scholes as revealed truth needs re-examination. For that matter, so does the academic’s inclination to dwell on the valuation of options. You can be highly successful as an investor without having the slightest ability to value an option”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's take apart this statement:&lt;br /&gt;a. &lt;u&gt;"Both Charlie and I"&lt;/u&gt;: I presume that Charlie here stands for Charlie Munger, the other fount of wisdom from Omaha. I guess this is supposed to add to the intimidation factor. If Charlie Munger agrees with Warren Buffett, what right-minded person would disagree, right? Charlie Munger has a way with words (I especially love this quote: "If the only tool you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail.") But so do Yogi Berra and Lady Gaga, and I am not listening to investment advice from either one..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. "Black-Scholes produces wildly inappropriate values when appled to long-dated options"&lt;/u&gt;: So, the Black-Scholes that Mr. Buffett must be referencing must be the original Black-Scholes, with no dividend&amp;nbsp; or dilution adjustments to value European options? And what exactly are these long dated options that are being valued? Warrants or management options? Since US companies are light users of the former, I would assume that it is the latter, which are not traded. If they are not traded, two questions:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;i. How would Mr. Buffett know that they are wildly inappropriate? &lt;/i&gt;Because the values he got from these options were higher than Mr. Buffett's gut said that they should be worth? Perhaps, he should take a look at LEAPs (long term call and put options) traded on US stocks on the exchanges. As the value guru, he may think that all of these options are being over valued. If so, I would welcome his intervention in these markets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;ii. What exactly did Mr. Buffett do with the Black-Scholes model?&lt;/i&gt; The Black-Scholes model is only as good as its inputs. With long term options, the variance that&amp;nbsp; should be used in the model is a long term variance (which may be well below the current level) and if the options are management options, you should be correcting for dilution and illiquidity. Since FASB has required companies to value management options and expense them for the last three years, this is a well researched area of finance. With the adjustments, the Black Scholes delivers reasonable values for options.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is the bottom line. The Black Scholes under values deep out of the money options (because of its assumption that prices move continuously) and over values options that are illiquid. To compensate, we can either modify the Black Scholes or use a binomial option pricing model, both of which deliver much better estimates of option value than any individual's gut...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;c. &lt;u&gt;"Academic’s inclination to dwell on the valuation of options"&lt;/u&gt;: I love this one! Where does Warren Buffett's academic live? Is he a Phd student that Buffett and Munger trapped in the 1970s and put in a hut in Omaha, poring over old Journals of Finance (preferably from the 1960s)?&amp;nbsp; That may explain Buffett's fixation with the CAPM and the Black Scholes. There are some academics and many practitioners who dwell on the valuation of options, but there is a reason for that.&amp;nbsp; It is their job is to assess the value of listed options, warrants or convertibles, and if that is their job, they have to just dwell on the valuation of options. I am an academic (in Buffett's sense of the word) but option valuation is an after thought to me, not a central part of either corporate finance and valuation.. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;d. &lt;u&gt;"Academics’ current practice of teaching Black-Scholes as revealed truth needs re-examination&lt;/u&gt;: I would be interested in what constitutes "current" practice to Mr. Munger and Mr. Buffett. Furthermore, what are these nasty academics doing? Are they telling their students to value options using the Black-Scholes model, to buy under valued options and sell over valued options? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;e. &lt;u&gt;"You can be highly successful as an investor without having the slightest ability to value an option"&lt;/u&gt;: Here is the only statement that I completely agree with. Absolutely, but only if you stay away from option laden investments (which includes companies like Cisco which have a significant management option overhang, oil companies with undeveloped reserves like Petrobras, pharmaceutical companies with potential blockbuster drugs making their way through the pipeline).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am sorry if you find me to be disrespectful for not treating Warren Buffett as a minor deity, whose every word is gospel.&amp;nbsp; It is clear that all of the praise that he receives from his followers has gone to his head. He sound absurd when he talks about derivatives and seems to think that he is a macro forecaster (which actually cuts against everything he stood for two decades ago). I will pay him the ultimate compliment (or insult) by taking every macro suggestion that he makes and doing the opposite.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-1600801569475391815?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/1600801569475391815/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=1600801569475391815' title='23 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1600801569475391815'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/1600801569475391815'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/02/buffett-and-black-scholes.html' title='Buffett and Black-Scholes'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>23</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-8276910790444868590</id><published>2011-02-25T04:07:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-03-04T03:49:27.688-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Equity Risk Premiums: The 2011 Edition</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;As many of you who have been readers of my posts know, I have a bit of fixation on the equity risk premium and have had several posts on the topic. The equity risk premium is what investors charge over and above what they can make on a riskfree investment to invest in equities, as a class. The reason for the fixation is simple. The equity risk premium is a central number in both corporate finance and valuation. In corporate finance, it determines the costs of equity and capital for firms, and by extension, their investment policies. It also drives the choice between debt and equity and determines whether the company should be accumulating cash or returning it to stockholders. In valuation, it is a key input to the value of any company.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The message that I have tried to deliver is that this number is too important to be be viewed as a constant or outsourced to someone else. Thus, the defense that is offered by many investment banks, consulting firms and corporations that the equity risk premium that they use comes from a reputable source (Ibbotson, Duff and Phelps or Credit Suisse) fails the credibility test. If you run a business or have to value it, you have to take ownership of this number.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A confession, though, is a good place to start this discussion. I used to think that equity risk premiums in developed markets were fairly stable numbers and that mean reversion (assuming that things move back to a normal or at least average level) was a safe assumption. That is.. until September 2008. I got a wake-up call between September 2008 and December 2008 about the dangers in this assumption as equity risk premiums in developed markets exploded.. by my estimate, the equity risk premium in the S&amp;amp;P 500 almost doubled in two months. I wrote a paper on equity risk premiums in the midst of that crisis in November 2008 and the response indicated that quite a few other people were just as concerned as I was about the lack of attention that practitioners paid to what the equity risk premium was and what it was measuring.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gratified by the response to that first attempt, I have returned to the well two times and done updates of the equity risk premium paper at the start of 2009 and 2010. Since we are into 2011, I just finished my latest update on equity risk premiums and you can get it here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1769064"&gt;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1769064&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is awfully an long paper (about 94 pages) and I apologize in advance. Some of the verbosity can be attributed to verbal diarrhea, an occupational hazard for someone who loves writing and likes hearing himself talk. Some of the length, though, is due to the fact that this is a widely researched topic, examined from many different angles, and I felt the urge to present a full picture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here, though, are my summary thoughts/ findings:&lt;br /&gt;1. The equity risk premium is neither a mathematical number nor is it a statistical number. Instead, it is a reflection of what investors are feeling in their gut: if investors feel more worried about the future, the equity risk premium will rise. After the last week (Feb 20-24, 2011) in the Middle East (Egypt in turmoil, Libya on the edge, the House of Saud wondering whether the bells will be tolling for them), equity risk premiums have probably risen across the globe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Pragmatically, though, there are only three ways of estimating the equity risk premiums:&lt;br /&gt;a. You can survey investors, portfolio managers, CFOs or even academics to get a sense of what they think is a reasonable value for the equity risk premium. As I note in the paper, these survey premiums right now indicate that people seem pretty sanguine about equity risk and the risk premiums have dropped from what they were two years ago. The actual values range from just above 3% (from CFOs) to just under 4% (portfolio managers).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;b. You can look at the past and look at the actual premiums earned by stocks over riskless investments in the past. I do this as well, using the long historical database that we have in the US, and estimate that stocks have earned an average premium of 4.31% over treasury bonds between 1928 and 2010. That is very close to the 4.29% that I reported as the historical premium last year, using 1928-2009 data. However, there are two caveats. Even with this long time period, the standard error in the estimate is 2.38%; applying the standard plus or minus two standard errors to the 4.31%, we would conclude that the true risk premium can be zero or greater than 9%. Second, the historical premium number itself can change depending upon your choice of riskfree rate (T.Bills or T.Bonds), time period (1928-2010, 1960-2010, 2001-2010) and averaging approach (arithmetic average or geometric average). Needless to say, I don't trust historical risk premiums.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;c. You can try to estimate a forward-looking premium, by looking at what people are paying for stocks today and estimating expected cash flows in the future. On January 1, 2011, using the S&amp;amp;P 500 level of approximately 1258 and expected cash flows for the future, you can back out a required return on 8.49% for stocks in the index. Netting out the treasury bond rate of 3.29% on January 1, 2011, yields an "implied" equity risk premium of 5.20% for that day. While estimating future growth rates can be hazardous, I trust implied premiums more than historical premiums. Talking about updating the numbers, I estimated the equity risk premium today (Feb 24, 2011) using the level of the index at close of trading today (1306.10) and the treasury bond rate at the close of trading (3.45%) to be 4.98%.&amp;nbsp; That is up from 4.82% a week ago... I guess Libya is having an impact. By the time you read this post, that number may be dated. So, give it your best shot:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPupdated.xls"&gt;http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPupdated.xls&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those of you who follow me on Twitter (#AswathDamodaran) get my monthly updates on the equity risk premium, at least for the US. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;d. Estimating equity risk premiums in emerging markets is more difficult to do, partly because the historical data is thinner and less reliable. Implied premiums are more difficult to estimate because of the absence of information on cash flows and growth rates. Notwithstanding these limitations, I have laid out three ways in which equity risk premiums can be estimated in emerging markets and my biases about these approaches. Looking at the big picture, though, it is astonishing how much equity risk premiums in "big" emerging markets (India, China, Brazil) have declined over the last decade, a huge contributor to the surge in equity prices in those markets.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;e. Risk premiums for the most part move together across different markets, geographically and across asset classes. As the equity risk premium has changed in the US, so have the default spreads on bonds and risk premiums in real estate. When risk premiums do not move together, all too often it is an indication of a bubble in one market or a mispricing in the other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. The big question, of course, is which of these equity risk premium estimates is the right one to use in corporate finance and valuation. My answer is nuanced, which may surprise some of you, because I don't take kindly to nuance:&lt;br /&gt;a. If your job is to be market neutral, i.e., assess the value of a company, given where the market is today, you should use today's implied equity risk premium. On February 24, 2011, this would have meant using 4.98% in a mature equity maret. Using any other premium would introduce your market views into the valuation.&lt;br /&gt;b. If you are a long term value investor and don't have to answer to market metrics in the short term, you are lucky. You can then take market views into your valuation by using what you think is a better long term estimate of the equity risk premium.&lt;br /&gt;c. If you are a CFO and are concerned about long term value, you can take the same point of view as the long term value investor and estimate a "normalized" equity risk premium.&lt;br /&gt;d. If you are a macro strategist, you can look at implied equity risk premiums in different market to make your judgment on where you want to invest your money. As a general rule, you want more of your money invested in markets with high "risk premiums" and less invested in markets with 'low" risk premiums.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;Bottom line&lt;/u&gt;: The equity risk premium is too important a number to be outsourced. Investors, managers and central banks need to keep their eyes on risk premiums in different markets.&lt;a href="http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPupdated.xl"&gt;http://www.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/pc/implprem/ERPupdated.xl&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-8276910790444868590?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/feeds/8276910790444868590/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=8152901575140311047&amp;postID=8276910790444868590' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8276910790444868590'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8152901575140311047/posts/default/8276910790444868590'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com/2011/02/equity-risk-premiums-2011-edition.html' title='Equity Risk Premiums: The 2011 Edition'/><author><name>Aswath Damodaran</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12021594649672906878</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='25' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hgZPxK86VME/SOPOZGWApVI/AAAAAAAAAAg/sprVH1oYYZM/S220/damodaran.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8152901575140311047.post-3823546039522087152</id><published>2011-02-20T11:26:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2011-02-20T11:26:45.112-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Merck and Pfizer: Thoughts on investing as a patriotic duty and market efficiency</title><content type='html'>&lt;div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on"&gt;We have an interesting long-term experiment in the making in the pharmaceutical business, as two of the largest players - Pfizer and Merck announced their plans for the future. Pfizer was the first up, &lt;a href="http://blogs.barrons.com/stockstowatchtoday/2011/02/01/pfizer-lowers-rd-will-buy-back-5-billion-in-shares/"&gt;announcing its plans to buy back stock and rein in R&amp;amp;D&lt;/a&gt;. Pfizer has been an active acquirer over the last few years, buying Wyeth for $68 billion in 2009, and this announcement seems to at least implicitly suggest at least a pause in, and perhaps an abandonment of,&amp;nbsp; that strategy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Merck responded with a very different vision of its future, suggesting that it would be i&lt;a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703652104576122433479575072.html"&gt;nvesting more in R&amp;amp;D and would not be returning cash (at least in the near term)&lt;/a&gt;. Given that Merck spent $41 billion buying Schering Plough in 2009 and is still showing &lt;a href="http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2011/02/03/merck-swings-q-loss-charges-issues-weak-fiscal-year-view/"&gt;signs of indigestion from that acquisition&lt;/a&gt;, it is not clear whether this announcement is an indication that they have abandoned the "big acquisition" strategy for a return to basics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The immediate reaction from the market was positive to Pfizer's announcement (an increase of 5-7% in the stock price) and negative to Merck's announcement (a drop of 2-5%). The reason these stories reverberate is because they also coincide with a push by the Obama administration to get US firms, which have been sitting on large cash balances,&lt;a href="http://247wallst.com/2011/02/08/obama-to-business-invest-no-matter-what-the-cost/"&gt; to do their patriotic duty and invest that cash, with R&amp;amp;D being singled out as a good place for the investment&lt;/a&gt;. So, here are some open questions:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;1. Is investing in R&amp;amp;D and capital investments the patriotic thing to do?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pushing companies to invest their cash, whether it be in R&amp;amp;D or in factories, is not always good for the economy and using patriotism as the argument for doing so strikes me as wrong on three levels.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul style="text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;li&gt;The very fact that you have to use the patriotism card suggests to me that you have lost the economic argument. (It is akin to the "strategic" card that some managers pull when they want to push through an investment or acquisition that makes no economic sense.) Through the centuries, political leaders have called on their people to give up economic and political rights in the cause of the "greater good ". There are times where the argument reverberates. FDR and Churchill's pleas for shared sacrifice during the Second World War were responded to, because people (and by extension, corporations) recognized that losing the war would catastrophic to their own interests. And you cannot attribute the success to the persuasive powers of the leaders. After all, Winston Churchill lost his prime ministership and the British parliament in 1945, when the fear of war passed. In most periods, though, the argument falls flat because people detect the emptiness behind the sloganeering.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Is it patriotic for companies to build factories and invest in R&amp;amp;D, if the economic rationale for doing so is not there? Sure, if you define short term job creation as patriotic. After that initial glow, though, how do you sustain these uneconomic investments? You either provide taxpayer subsidies in perpetuity or the investments shut down: the former are not tenable with our budget deficits and with the latter, the layoffs return with a vengeance as the investment craters.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Even if you believe that it is appropriate to draw on patriotism as a rationale for economic decisions, it is one thing to ask it of individuals and another of corporations. A corporation is a legal entity, owned by stockholders. With globalization, the investors in many publicly traded US companies are Europeans, Asians and Latin Americans, just as investors in many companies in those countries are US citizens. Why should a Brazilian stockholder in Merck or Pfizer have to pay an economic price for either company to do its patriotic duty and invest in US jobs? &lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;u&gt;Bottom line&lt;/u&gt;: If you want to induce companies to invest their money, try to create an economic environment where such investments make sense. That does not mean creating special tax breaks for these investments (that is just another way of taxpayers subsidizing bad investments). It would imply reducing macroeconomic uncertainty and putting place policies that increase overall growth. If in spite of all these efforts, investments still don't make sufficient returns, the most patriotic thing for companies to do is to not invest the money but instead to give cash back to stockholders who will find better places to invest.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;2. What does the market reaction to these announcements tell us?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am always leery about reading too much into how the market reacts to individual firm announcements. After all, we have a sample of two in this case. But I can predict the two polar opposite reactions that the Merck/Pfizer news story will elicit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At one extreme will be those who belong to the "don't trust markets because they are short term" group. To them, the fact that market reacted negatively to Merck, a firm belonging virtuously (any firm that invests in R&amp;amp;D is endowed with this label) and positively to Pfizer, a firm catering to the greediest among us (since only greedy investors want to cash out on investments) will be viewed as proof that markets are short term and not to be trusted. I would have more sympathy for their arguments if the market reaction was knee jerk, always negative for R&amp;amp;D (or other investment announcements) and always positive for stock buybacks. But that is not what the evidence indicates. On average, stock markets react positively to investment announcements, whether they be in R&amp;amp;D or more conventional capital expenditures, as evidenced by the figure below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oJGdVsZDero/TWFoHabiPdI/AAAAAAAAACg/ubFuQXN9_og/s1600/Mkt+reaction+to+invs+ann.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="181" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oJGdVsZDero/TWFoHabiPdI/AAAAAAAAACg/ubFuQXN9_og/s320/Mkt+reaction+to+invs+ann.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, this chart is not a blanket endorsement of R&amp;amp;D or investment being good. In fact, stock prices go down at some firms that announce investment plans, as they did at Merck.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is the market being unfair to Merck by reacting so negatively to the announcement that it would increase R&amp;amp;D? I don't think so and Merck's recent history is one reason that the market is skeptical. The firm has invested tens of billions in R&amp;amp;D over the last 20 years but they have not much commercial success to show for the investment. More significantly, they did spend $41 billion to buy Schering Plough just two years ago, an action that makes little sense if Merck felt confidence in their internal R&amp;amp;D's value creating ability. Finally, investors are also aware that the health care business is changing in fundamental ways and many of these changes will not be friendly to the bottom line at pharmaceutical companies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;At the other, there will be firm believers in market efficiency who will point to the market reaction as evidence of the foresight and wisdom of markets. I am not willing to go that far, based on the limited evidence. After all, there are investors who react to every stock buyback as good news, at least initially.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;3. Which of these firms took the "right" action?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While the initial market reaction favors Pfizer, I think that it will take time to make the final judgment. I will be looking at three developments to draw my conclusions:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;a. Market follow through&lt;/u&gt;: Investors get a chance to reassess their initial reaction as markets settle down and fundamentals reassert their dominance. If six months from now, Pfizer has been able to sustain its gains, I will feel more confident that it did the right thing to begin with. Conversely, if six months from now, Merck's stock price has reversed direction and risen, I will be less worried about the R&amp;amp;D being misspent.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;b. Economic payoff&lt;/u&gt;: With Pfizer, I expect to see the "lesser" investment in R&amp;amp;D to be redirected to areas with higher payoff (and higher return on capital). With Merck, it would be too much to ask that their new R&amp;amp;D investment start paying off in the near term, but I would like to see some of the billions that they have spent on R&amp;amp;D in the last decade show up as blockbuster drugs in the pipeline. In other words, I am looking for evidence that Merck's decision to invest in R&amp;amp;D was based upon real promise that they were seeing in their labs and not just hope. (One item that makes feel a little better about Merck is that &lt;a href="http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9L4EGQG0.htm"&gt;their pipeline is finally starting to show some promise&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;c. Internal consistency&lt;/u&gt;: Perhaps, the worst thing that either firm can do now is take other actions that are inconsistent with their current actions, in terms of future direction. With Pfizer, these inconsistent actions would take the form of expensive acquisitions and new stock issues to fund these acquisitions, actions that don't jell with more frugal, mature, cash returning company it is portraying itself to be. With Merck too, a return to large acquisitions would contradict the return to R&amp;amp;D roots story that they are pushing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Put succintly, as an investor, both firms are on probation, as far as I am concerned. Merck has a steeper hill to climb, because they are fighting their recent history and a health care business that has fundamentally changed, but Pfizer is not out of the woods either... &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/8152901575140311047-3823546039522087152?l=aswathdamodaran.blogspot.com' 
