In keeping with this week's theme of revisiting ghosts of valuations past, I decided to take a look at another fallen angel, Groupon. The stock has collapsed to $4.44 from its post-IPO high of $29 and investors and employees seem to be fleeing from the exits. If you are a contrarian with a strong stomach, it would like the stars are aligned for some bottom fishing but is Groupon a buy, even at this discounted price?
To make this assessment, I decided to take a look at my posts on Groupon from last year:
A year later, it is clear that I under estimated how quickly any competitive advantages that Groupon's first mover status gave them would be eroded. This is clear not only from perusing my email box every morning (and removing the dozen emails from different deal-of-the-day purveyors) but also in Groupon's financial results. As the most recent earnings report makes clear, revenue growth has slowed, profitability has lagged and the stock price collapse is in reaction these changes.
As I revisited my valuation, as with Facebook, I had to caution myself not to overreact, but the news, as I see it, is far more dire for Groupon than it is for Facebook. While Facebook's results were disappointing in terms of converting potential to profits quickly, the potential (from their vast user base and the information they have on these users) still remains. In Groupon's case, where the business model was clearer at the time of the IPO, the business model has collapsed and it is difficult to see what the company can do to set itself apart from the competition and make money at the same time. As a result, the changes I made in my Groupon valuation are more dramatic than the changes I made in my Facebook valuation. My base year numbers reflect their most recent quarterly filing, with trailing 12-month revenues of $1.965 billion and operating income of $71 million. My forecasted revenue growth rate is 25% (leading to revenues in 2022 of $10.3 billion, as contrasted with my earlier forecast of $25.4 billion), my target margin is 12% (down from my year-ago estimate of 23%) and my sales/capital ratio is now down to 1.25 (from a year-ago estimate of 2.00). The end result is a value per share of $4.07, which makes the stock, at best, a fairly priced stock. In fact, if you bring in the likelihood that the firm may not make it through its growth pains in the spreadsheet, the value per share drops even further. As with the Facebook valuation, you can download my spreadsheet and put your own estimates in... I have a shared Google spreadsheet for those of you who want to share your numbers...
There are two broader point that are worth making here.
To make this assessment, I decided to take a look at my posts on Groupon from last year:
- In my very first post on Groupon in June 2011, I looked at their attempt to move customer acquisition costs from the operating expense to capital expenditures column. While I was sympathetic to the general argument that operating expenses that create benefits over many years (such as R&D, exploration costs and even customer acquisition expenses) should be treated as capital expenditures, I was skeptical in Groupon's case since there was little evidence that Groupon's acquired customers stayed on for long periods and also because Groupon did not follow through fully and treat customers as assets (and amortize or depreciate these assets over time).
- In my second post in October 2011, I looked at Groupon (as well as Google and Green Mountain) with an eye towards potential growth, using four tests: the feasibility of the growth given the overall market served by each company, the capacity to scale up growth (i.e., maintain growth as the companies get bigger), the value created by that growth and the effect of management credibility on how the market perceives that growth.
- In my third post on November 2, 2011, I valued Groupon at the time of the acquisition. Using "aggressive" assumptions on revenue growth (50% annually for first 5 years, scaling down to mature growth by year 10) and pre-tax operating margin (23%), I estimated a value of $14.62 per share, below the $16-$20 range that investment bankers were touting.
- The stock did go public on November 3, 2011, at $20/share, and jumped to $28 by the end of the day. My fourth post on Groupon, on November 4, 2011, looked at the company in the context of a discussion of the value of growth. For growth to add value, I argued that it has to be accompanied by "excess returns", which, in turn, require competitive advantages or barriers to entry. Looking at Groupon's business model, I could not think of any significant barriers to competition that would prevent others from entering the market and eating away at Groupon's margins. Using a simulation, I estimated the following distribution for value/share for Groupon in November 2011 and argued that the stock was more likely to be worth less than $10/share than it was to be be worth $30:
A year later, it is clear that I under estimated how quickly any competitive advantages that Groupon's first mover status gave them would be eroded. This is clear not only from perusing my email box every morning (and removing the dozen emails from different deal-of-the-day purveyors) but also in Groupon's financial results. As the most recent earnings report makes clear, revenue growth has slowed, profitability has lagged and the stock price collapse is in reaction these changes.
As I revisited my valuation, as with Facebook, I had to caution myself not to overreact, but the news, as I see it, is far more dire for Groupon than it is for Facebook. While Facebook's results were disappointing in terms of converting potential to profits quickly, the potential (from their vast user base and the information they have on these users) still remains. In Groupon's case, where the business model was clearer at the time of the IPO, the business model has collapsed and it is difficult to see what the company can do to set itself apart from the competition and make money at the same time. As a result, the changes I made in my Groupon valuation are more dramatic than the changes I made in my Facebook valuation. My base year numbers reflect their most recent quarterly filing, with trailing 12-month revenues of $1.965 billion and operating income of $71 million. My forecasted revenue growth rate is 25% (leading to revenues in 2022 of $10.3 billion, as contrasted with my earlier forecast of $25.4 billion), my target margin is 12% (down from my year-ago estimate of 23%) and my sales/capital ratio is now down to 1.25 (from a year-ago estimate of 2.00). The end result is a value per share of $4.07, which makes the stock, at best, a fairly priced stock. In fact, if you bring in the likelihood that the firm may not make it through its growth pains in the spreadsheet, the value per share drops even further. As with the Facebook valuation, you can download my spreadsheet and put your own estimates in... I have a shared Google spreadsheet for those of you who want to share your numbers...
There are two broader point that are worth making here.
- A dramatic stock price drop is not always a buying opportunity: Most young growth stocks are subject to gyrations and it is not uncommon to see growth stocks plummet, when they don't meet the lofty expectations that investors have for them, and we have seen this happen to both Facebook and Groupon. In some cases, investors over react and push the price down far more than they should and that is the basis for my pitch I made for friending Facebook in my last post. In some cases, though, the stock price collapse is well-deserved and that is my rationale for avoiding Groupon.
- Intrinsic valuations can (and should) change over time: There is deeply held belief, at least in some quarters, that intrinsic valuations are stable and don't change over time. While that may be true in many companies and most time periods, there are three exceptions. The first is a dramatic change in the macro environment. My intrinsic valuations for almost all companies changed between August 2008 and October 2008, as the market price of risk (in the form of equity risk premiums and default spreads) increased dramatically in the aftermath of the banking crisis. The second is when accounting fraud is uncovered and key numbers have to be restated. The third is with young growth companies where the premise on which the value of growth is based - that it is scalable, defensible and valuable - is called into question. It is the third exception that applies to Groupon and I feel comfortable lowering the value per share from $14.82 a year ago to $4.07 today.
Dear Prof: the common link in your overvaluing Groupon and Facebook is that you are only looking at their financials and ignoring their fundamentals.
ReplyDeleteIn brief, the typical internet user is getting pounded by advertising of all sorts whether or not they are interested in such. This category of advertising is called "demand generation" and covers the ads delivered by Facebook, Groupon, Yahoo. The user is overwhelmed and is tuning out anything that is not relevant. Mobile devices with smaller screens drives the user to scream for even more relevance. As a result, there is a secular decline in all stocks related to "demand gen" advertising.
Demand fulfillment on the other hand, where the user expresses explicit intent via entering a search term is growing. Companies such as Google, Amazon and Ebay fit this category. Their stocks are enjoying growth and will dominate in the coming years.
You may be right about the internet user but all fundamentals are financial... the only reason you care about them is because they affect revenues and margins and returns..
ReplyDeleteThanks for responding.
ReplyDeleteIt is true that all fundamentals manifest themselves in the financials eventually. And that financials across multiple companies provides insight into sectors as a whole.
But is also true that fundamentals get obscured in the financials when companies have huge amounts of private capital pumped into unsustainable business models and then dumped on the public markets.
You are dead on about Groupon, which is a call center business disguised as a consumer internet company. There is no scale effect to their economics, they grow by hiring more people to dial for listings.
ReplyDeleteTotally respect the methodological & thoroughness of Prof's work on the valuation.. it just shows I still have much to learn! ;-)
ReplyDeleteIf we bring our mind back however to definition of fundamental of business, which is the products/services and business model etc.. we could have foreseen that this could be a big waste of everyone's time & effort AND money..
as a nobody like me already said the business model was 'not broken' but "not sustainable" ever since it launched and first blogged about it back in 2010 and predicted them will not exist by 2015.. ( My response & prediction peHUB Depressing Thoughts About Groupon’s Model http://bit.ly/T8jyMf ), seems like I was wrong, their end might arrive sooner than that.. ;(
there is a fundamental structural & supply problems of the capital market, which is the smoke screen & quality and timeliness of the business critical information.. we need a solution..
Brilliant post! Very insightful.
ReplyDeleteProf, I am guessing you meant August 2008 to October 2008 to be the period when you revised the intrinsic values of firms that you tracked..
ReplyDeleteGreat read and thanks for sharing your knowledge
The discussion about fundamentals is truly interesting. Some operational indicators or strategic assessments can be leading indicators that are hard to express in percentage points.
ReplyDeleteLet's illustrate using Groupon. I have summarized Groupon as follows "If giving 70% discounts is a bad idea for a merchant, then a business that helps executing that bad idea faster is probably a bad idea too".
The facts seem to suggest there is merit in this assessment. But it is hard to translate into a spreadsheet, but rather, used as a filter before you start looking at the financials.
Pieter,
ReplyDeleteThe problem with filters is that they can shut out good investments. Let me use Groupon as my analogy. By your measure, Groupon will never be a good investment. I do think that any stock can be a good investment at the right price. Thus, if I could buy Groupon at $1.50/share, I would.... So, screening is good but the nuts and bolts of valuation still matter.
Prof, I disagree with your statement that "any stock can be a good investment at the right price." Businesses that are not sustainable are not good investments at any price, e.g, pets.com.
ReplyDeleteThat is true only for businesses that have a value of zero. I am afraid that is an extreme position and applies to a very small subset of companies. Most businesses have some value. The question is what that value is... and whether you can buy it at a price lower than that value.
ReplyDeleteUK dealsYou may be right about the internet user but all fundamentals are financial... the only reason.they can good business and good investment at any price
ReplyDeleteProf, here is my post on the fundamentals. Will show up in the financials eventually :)
ReplyDeletehttp://pandodaily.com/2012/08/28/what-ails-groupon-yahoo-and-facebook-demand-generation-advertising/
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